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Pellet Comparison
« on: September 27, 2010, 01:01:17 PM »

Recommended Pellets

The ingredients:

Harrisons High Potency: Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, Ground Hulless Barley, Ground Soybeans, Ground Shelled Peanuts, Ground Green Peas, Ground Lentils, Ground Yellow Corn, Ground Rice, Ground Toasted Oat Groats, Psyllium, Sun Dried Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, Spirulina, Montmorillonite Clay, Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite. CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT

Crude protein (min.) 18%, crude fat (min.) 15%, crude fiber (max.) 6.5%, moisture (max.) 10%

Harrisons Lifetime: Ground Yellow Corn, Ground Hulless Barley, Ground Soybeans, Ground Shelled Peanuts, Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, Ground Lentils, Ground Green Peas, Ground Rice, Ground Toasted Oat Groats, Sun Dried Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, Psyllium, Montmorillonite Clay, Spirulina, Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt , Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite. CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT

Crude protein (min.) 15%, crude fat (min.) 5.5%, crude fiber (max.) 6.5%, moisture (max.) 10%

Zupreem Natural: Ground corn, Soybean meal, Ground wheat, Vegetable oil, Wheat germ meal, Sucrose, Dicalcium phosphate, Calcium carbonate, Ground vegetables (carrots, celery, beets, watercress and spinach), Iodized salt, DL-Methionine, Choline chloride, L-Lysine, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, Natural mixed tocopherols, Rosemary extract, Citric acid, Canthaxanthin, Manganous oxide, Zinc oxide, Copper sulfate, Calcium iodate, Sodium selenite, Vitamin A supplement, Vitamin D3 supplement, Vitamin E supplement, Vitamin K supplement, Niacin, Calcium pantothenate, Pyridoxine hydrochloride, Thiamine,
Riboflavin, Folic acid, Biotin, Vitamin B12 supplement.

Protein - 14%
Fat - 4%
Fibre 3.5%
Moisture 10%

Zupreem FruitBlend: Ground corn, Soybean meal, Ground wheat, Vegetable oil, Wheat germ meal, Sucrose, Dicalcium phosphate, Calcium carbonate, Ground fruit (bananas, oranges, apples and grapes), Iodized salt, DL-Methionine, Choline chloride, L-Lysine, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, Natural mixed tocopherols, Rosemary extract, Citric acid, Natural and artificial colors, Artificial flavors, Canthaxanthin, Manganous oxide, Zinc oxide, Copper sulfate, Calcium iodate, Sodium selenite, Vitamin A supplement, Vitamin D3 supplement, Vitamin E supplement, Vitamin K supplement, Niacin, Calcium pantothenate, Pyridoxine hydrochloride, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Folic acid, Biotin, Vitamin B12 supplement.
Protein - 14%
Fat - 4%
Fibre 3.5%
Moisture 10%

Hagen: Fruits - Orange oil, banana oil (for flavour) - Seeds - Corn, wheat, rice, sunflower kernal, flaxseed, oat groats - Vegetables - Tomato - Legumes - Soybean, peanut kernal - Others - Spirulina, rosemary extract, vitamins and minerals
Protein - 14.0% - Fat - 9.0% - Fibre - 4.0%

Totally Organics Pellets: Certified Organic Ingredients: Rice, hulled millet, barley, alfalfa leaf, sunflower seed hulled, sesame seeds unhulled, quinoa whole, buckwheat hulled, dandelion leaf powder, carrot powder, spinach leaf powder, purple dulse, kelp, rose hips powder, rose hips crushed, orange peel powder, lemon peel powder, rosemary whole leaf, cayenne ground, crushed red chili peppers, nettle leaf.

Guaranteed Analysis: Protein 15% Max., Fat 6% Min., Crude Fiber 6% Max.

Roudybush Maintenance Crumble:  Ground Corn, Ground Wheat, Peanut Meal, Soy Oil, Soy Meal, Hydrated Sodium Calcium Aluminosilicate, Yucca schidigen Extract, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, L-Lysine, DL-Methionine, Mixed Tocopherols, Rosemary Extract, Ascorbic Acid, Citric Acid, Lecithin, Silicon Dioxide (carrier for liquid antioxidants), Sodium Selenite (on Calcium Carbonate), Niacin, Alpha-Tocopherol Acetate (Source of Vitamin E), Biotin, Manganese Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Zinc Oxide, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vit. A Acetate, Thiamine, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (Vit K), Cyanocobalamin (VitB12), Vit D3 Sup. Folic Acid, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Propionic Acid, Ammonium Hydroxide, Acetic Acid, Sorbic Acid, Tartaric Acid, and natural apple flavoring.

Guaranteed Maintenance analysis: crude protein min. 11.0%; crude fiber max. 3.5%; crude fat min. 7.0%

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Kaytee Exact Rainbow: Ground Corn, Ground Wheat, Ground Oat Groats, Soybean Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Wheat Middlings, Ground Flax Seed, Soy Oil, Dried Whole Egg, Dried Beet Pulp, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Wheat Germ Meal, Corn Sugar, L-Lysine, Salt, Whole Cell Algae Meal (source of DHA), Fructooligosaccharide, Brewers Dried Yeast, Vitamin A Supplement, Choline Chloride, Dried Cane Molasses, Titanium Dioxide, Mixed Tocopherols (a preservative), Yeast Extract, DL-Methionine, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganous Oxide, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of vitamin K activity), Niacin, Rosemary Extract, Citric Acid, Calcium Pantothenate, L-Carnitine, Copper Sulfate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Cholecalciferol (source of vitamin D3), Beta-Carotene, Canthaxanthin, Folic Acid, Calcium Iodate, Biotin, Cobalt Carbonate, Sodium Selenite, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus licheniformis Fermentation Product, Artificial Colors, Natural Flavors.

Pretty Bird For African Greys: Ground Corn, Ground Oats, Corn Gluten Meal, Ground Wheat, Coconut Oil, Canola Oil, Soya Oil, Olive Oil, Safflower Oil, Corn Oil, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, L-Lysine Monohydrochloride, Choline Chloride, Natural and Artificial Flavors DL Methionine, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Ferric Sulfate, D-Biotin, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Oxide, Niacinamide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, BHT (As a Preservative), Copper Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Beta Carotene, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Natural and Artificial Colors, Menadione Dimethylpyrimidinol Bisulfite (Source of Vitamin K3), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Cobalt Sulfate


Pretty Bird For Small Birds: Ground Corn, Ground Wheat, Ground Oat Groats, Corn Gluten Meal, Potato Protein, Coconut Oil, Soya Oil, Safflower Oil, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcuim Phosphate, L-Lysine, Monohydrochloride, Choline Chloride, Natural and Artificial Flavors, DL-Methionine, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Ferric Sulfate, D-Biotin, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Oxide, Niacinamide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, BHT (as a preservative), Copper Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Natural and Artificial Colours, Menadione Dimethylpyrimdinol Bisulfite Complex (source of vitamin K3), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Cobalt Sulfate

Note the ingredient list is almost exactly the same on both Pretty Bird products, so the label on the packaging suggesting the species of the the parrots it is formulated for is just that, a label, and a meaningless one too.



In red I highlighted the ingredients which are best avoided.

Salt. In minute quantities it is probably harmless, up the amount a bit and it can cause serious toxicity and even death (amount added to pellets is strictly regulated of course)

Sugar (Sucrose). Promotes yeast and bacteria growth in the gut. Excessive amount can lead to diabetes.

Corn Gluten Meal - is a byproduct of corn (maize) processing that has historically been used as an animal feed. It can also be used as an organic herbicide. CGM is used as an inexpensive protein source for pet foods. However, many dogs and cats develop an allergy to corn after eating CGM for an extended amount of time. (from Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_gluten_meal )

Menadione - Large doses of menadione have been reported to cause adverse outcomes including hemolytic anemia due to G6PD deficiency, neonatal brain or liver damage, or neonatal death in some rare cases. Moreover, menadione supplements have been banned by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) because of their potential toxicity... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menadione)

BHT - "BHT could produce hyperactivity in some children. In addition, some controversy surrounds the link of BHT to cancer risk, some studies showing the potential to increase and some showing a decrease in risk. Some food industries have voluntarily eliminated this additive from their products, and since the 1970s it has been steadily replaced with the less studied BHA. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butylated_hydroxytoluene)

Natural Flavours. Even though they are called natural, they are not in fact that natural. Many foods and drinks are flavoured by 'natural flavours' or 'natural flavourings'. These are obtained from plants, meat, fish, fungi and even wood. But they're a very concentrated chemical extract from natural sources - not the real thing.
Natural flavourings don't have to come from the plant or animal you might expect. For example, strawberry flavour products can contain natural flavourings that have never been close to a real, natural strawberry.
They have been made in a laboratory and are so chemically similar to real strawberry extract that they are allowed to be called natural. They are sometimes described as 'nature identical'.
There's an easy way to tell if a food or drink contains real ingredients. Take a look at the ingredients list. If it shows a lot of colourings and flavourings, there's a good chance that the manufacturer cut back on real ingredients.
(Source: http://www.chewonthis.org.uk/factory_food/additives_home.htm#natural-flavours )


In green I highlighted the ingredients which I am happy to see on the label (they are less conventional ingredient and added to go along with regular seeds/grains/legumes standard for this type of feed)

So in theory, the more red ingredients there are the worse the pellet.


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Re: Pellet Comparison
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 02:17:50 PM »

This is fab :ty :ty Irina :cheekkiss:
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 02:25:16 PM »

Great info Irina  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2010, 02:27:32 PM »

The way you have pointed out the BAD and GOOD makes the comparison very easy to follow  and understand.   :thumbsup:
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 02:43:03 PM »

thank you  :flowers: you sure it doesn't look like a colouring book?  :rofl:
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 02:54:01 PM »

Great info  :thumbsup:
 lookin at it in green n red it looks like the totaly organics is the better choice
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 03:01:33 PM »

I wouldn't say they are the best choice, they just have more herbal ingredients. In my opinion TOPs are the best pellet to go along with either Zupreem or Harrisons. Tops don't contain any synthetic vitamins, so they don't contain vitamin D, and if you can't get the bird outside then it needs that supplemented, but TOPs have got plenty of other good stuff and if the parrot likes them they make a fun addition to the diet as they are quite different in shape, colour and texture to other pellets.

Basically those in green are less conventional ingredients which are not often added to pet food. Barley, lentils, wheat, etc. listed in the ingredients are all good and essential too of course, but they are more of a regular ingredient for this type of pet food, so I didn't highlight them.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 03:11:29 PM »

I've edited red/green info a bit to make it slightly clearer what i meant  :biggrin:
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 03:17:35 PM »

Thanks Irina, that will be really useful
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 03:46:24 PM »

:bow:  Ooops better not bow down to you  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That's really helpful Irina, thanks.  :flowers:

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 03:55:26 PM »

my pleasure  :biggrin:

Plukie   :haha: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 09:20:26 PM »

Hi Irina,
Do you sell any of this products. I had quite a bad experience with Chemist Direct. I order Harrison from them and it took 3 weeks to get it. This was a few months ago. This week I ordered another batch and was told that everything is in stock, but received a email from Chemist direct that they have on one only but I order two. Today I received another email that the order will be dispatch on 6/10/2010.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2010, 09:27:38 PM »

Irina that is great info especially for new parrot owners, because it can get abit confusing when you first learn about pellets
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 11:46:13 AM »

Thanks for a good topic, mine are on Harrisons, can i ask, are Roudybush any good?
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 12:40:50 PM »

Another great post from you again  :biggrin: :thumbsup: Would you mind it i blogged it would put you down as the author as i think loads would find this really useful  :flowers:
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thank you, Paula, and of course I don't mind  :biggrin:
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2010, 12:51:52 PM »

I`m not sure about Roudybush, never heard much about them, if Irina doesn`t answer you on here just pm her cos she might have missed you asking :thumbsup:
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2010, 12:56:08 PM »

Angie, thank you for pointing Roudybush question out, I did miss it!

Roudybush are a good pellet too. It contains salt as far as i remember but apart from that it has got a reasonably good ingredient list, it is just not available in the UK. I will add the ingredient list to the main post. Oh and they do two types, one based on rice. So that one would be better, anway, the addition to the post is coming shortly...another bad  thing about roudybush is that they use menadione as a form of vitamin K (about its dangers http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione)
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2010, 02:29:24 PM »

Hi, and  :ty Angie
Irina, thats great info, thank you, I am in the UK and I can get from a shop in the US, I can also get the cheesy treats, would you say Roudybush are a good accompaniment to Harrisons, I do like to have variety with pellets, and also, where do I get these TOPS? Also, all my birds forage for 100% of their food (apart from greens and fruit) so what size are these TOPS?
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2010, 03:56:53 PM »

TOPs are little cylinders about a cmin length and a couple of mm in diameter
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