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Always scratching
« on: December 18, 2017, 03:26:28 PM »

My grey keeps scratching her head, but she's not always actually scratching. She does the movement but her foot isn't touching her head. She also shakes her head alot. I've recently taken her on as she was abused and neglected. She's grown most of her feathers back and eats properly now so she's noticeably happier, also she won't stop talking which I know is a sign of happiness, but the scratching worries me. There aren't any Avery vets near me so wanted to see if there is anything I can try and do without having to travel miles to one of it's not too serious. She doesn't seem unhappy, it looks more like and involuntary behaviour trait, like a "tick". Can anyone help?
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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 07:19:17 PM »

Sometimes they just rub their heads or just hold their foot up, so it might be just something she does. Have you tried to give her a warm water spray, she may have dry skin.
I also find that they flick their heads with certain sounds, like its to high a sound or uncomfortable for them, so again could be just normal.
Keep a check but I don’t think it’s anything particularly to worry about.
I would however try and make a trip to an avian vet, especially as she’s been neglected & abused just for a health check. Well done for taking her on, where are you based?
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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 09:48:05 AM »

Sometimes they just rub their heads or just hold their foot up, so it might be just something she does. Have you tried to give her a warm water spray, she may have dry skin.
I also find that they flick their heads with certain sounds, like its to high a sound or uncomfortable for them, so again could be just normal.
Keep a check but I don’t think it’s anything particularly to worry about.
I would however try and make a trip to an avian vet, especially as she’s been neglected & abused just for a health check. Well done for taking her on, where are you based?
UK, Surrey,
Like I said she seems happy enough, I have now managed to get her to happily step up in a stick and I can walk around the room, stroke her and my other half can give her a tickle on the tummy but she used to attack us so definitely getting better. She used to be a plucked chicken and mostly bald and now she's just very fluffy. And she can fly now which she couldn't before. I'll just keep going. Just trying to make her feel safe is the priority

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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 12:46:37 PM »

Aww she’s a beauty
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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 01:50:39 PM »

Aww she’s a beauty
As you can see she's still got quite a way to go but I think she's great. She's starting to get a personality. She called my dogs into the room and when they get confused and walk back out she giggles. She is such a character. She used to be with her sister but she died just before I got her so I don't know if she's got behaviour problems due to that?
She used to be kept in a dark room with no lights and was fed and watered once a week. It was an old client of mine that I used to see and I eventually plucked up the courage to say I'm taking her and he didn't care. Poor thing. But now she has clean food and water and regular cage clean and TV and toys and UV light and windows .....she must think she's in heaven :)



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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2017, 03:38:04 PM »

:( its so sad how people treat them, it breaks my heart and just makes me so angry.

She will get there, she will be struggling with the loss of her sister, who will have been her companion poor thing. She's had a lot to deal with so just give her time and you'll see her full personality come out. Until then you won't really know.

What are you feeding her? Do you have an avian lamp for her? in her circumstances she will do wonders with that, it just gives them the daylight they don't often get and helps them absorb vitamins etc.

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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2017, 03:48:00 PM »

:( its so sad how people treat them, it breaks my heart and just makes me so angry.

She will get there, she will be struggling with the loss of her sister, who will have been her companion poor thing. She's had a lot to deal with so just give her time and you'll see her full personality come out. Until then you won't really know.

What are you feeding her? Do you have an avian lamp for her? in her circumstances she will do wonders with that, it just gives them the daylight they don't often get and helps them absorb vitamins etc.
She was fed on primarily stripped sunflowers and peanuts.....so I stopped those and put her on a Johnson and Jeff African grey low sun flower diet as Its said to be better, homemade nutriberries as the shop naughty ones are extortionate. She gets fresh fruit and veg now which she had never had before which she's still unsure about as she doesn't know what it is. I've been trying to read lots and adjust her diet to what experts say. I know that sunflowers and peanuts are very fattening and I only give her human grade monkey nuts as a super treat when she's being nice :)
She has UV lights as a top up daily and I think she has perked up from that alone.
She also loooooves the spray baths.
I think it's hard to know if I'm doing the right thing because she's come from nothing so everything is new and scary but every day she jumps a little less and talks a bit more and she's always glued to her swing haha.

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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2017, 03:49:58 PM »

:( its so sad how people treat them, it breaks my heart and just makes me so angry.

She will get there, she will be struggling with the loss of her sister, who will have been her companion poor thing. She's had a lot to deal with so just give her time and you'll see her full personality come out. Until then you won't really know.

What are you feeding her? Do you have an avian lamp for her? in her circumstances she will do wonders with that, it just gives them the daylight they don't often get and helps them absorb vitamins etc.
She was fed on primarily stripped sunflowers and peanuts.....so I stopped those and put her on a Johnson and Jeff African grey low sun flower diet as Its said to be better, homemade nutriberries as the shop naughty ones are extortionate. She gets fresh fruit and veg now which she had never had before which she's still unsure about as she doesn't know what it is. I've been trying to read lots and adjust her diet to what experts say. I know that sunflowers and peanuts are very fattening and I only give her human grade monkey nuts as a super treat when she's being nice :)
She has UV lights as a top up daily and I think she has perked up from that alone.
She also loooooves the spray baths.
I think it's hard to know if I'm doing the right thing because she's come from nothing so everything is new and scary but every day she jumps a little less and talks a bit more and she's always glued to her swing haha.

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And she has vitamin block things. I've given her cuttle fish aswell but I've run out as she goes through it so quick. It's apparently great fun to destroy.

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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2017, 05:29:41 PM »

You’re doing everything right, cut out the monkey nuts altogether though, even the human grade ones can harbour a spore that can be fatal to them. They all love them unfortunately, try almonds instead. I all honesty you’ve improved her life  thousand times:) now just enjoy seeing her confidence grow
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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 10:23:41 AM »

You’re doing everything right, cut out the monkey nuts altogether though, even the human grade ones can harbour a spore that can be fatal to them. They all love them unfortunately, try almonds instead. I all honesty you’ve improved her life  thousand times:) now just enjoy seeing her confidence grow
Ok will do, I heard about the spores but thought the roast human kind were ok, shall cut them out. She really like walnuts but cannot get her to even touch an almond.

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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 10:50:54 AM »

yeah mines the same, she just doesn't like almonds, keep with the walnuts.

The human grade ones can still be a problem, it might be a very small risk but it's just not worth it when there are other things that can be used.
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Re: Always scratching
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2018, 05:50:41 PM »

Hi from me
Just seen your thread
All I can add is do you use a Avian lamp ?
It’s a must ,it provides the vitD to process the calcium (head twitching can be a lack of calcium ) also helps with the oils needed for their feathers , helps them see better as well as many other health benefits .
And also if she’s on a seed diet give her a calcium suplement in her water or over her veg just to make sure she’s getting some.
Enjoy her , your doin a fab job xx


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