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Should I discourage Jake's mating behavior with me? (Long Post)

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I don't post much, but read often.  From everything I have read on mating behavior Jake is doing exactly that with me every time I go to pick him up. 

A little back story:  Jake is 16 years old and he joined our family 5 months ago.  My parents owned him since he was a baby.  They took very good care of him, had plenty of toys in his cage for him, but he never came out of the cage much over the past few years.  This I believe has made him very possessive of his cage. 

Since Jake joined us he has been his normal self, talks a lot, and loves to sit on top of his cage.  BUT, he has not allowed any of our family to pet him, he would move away from us when we get close, and if you try to pet, reach your hand into his cage, or ask him to step up, you WILL get bit.  I have been diligent in taking care of him every day, and even just sitting beside his cage when I have the chance  and talking to him. 

Until about a week ago, he was on top of his cage and I walked up to him and he didn't scoot away.  That surprised me, something was different.  He put his foot up, stepped right onto my finger and started exhibiting the mating characteristics.  He now spits food up for me every time I go close, and he always wants to step up now. I can't hardly get him off my finger .  When I am holding him he only makes the small squeaking sound, spreads his wings and shutters. He doesn't focus on anything else except the behavior, its like he is oblivious to everything else. 

This is the first real interaction I have been able to have with him. Something I have been trying to do since he joined us.   Is this a step in the right direction?  Is this just a phase that he will go through and then back to his normal behavior?  Is there things I can be working on to help for the future? 

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this lengthy post and comment.  All help is greatly appreciated. 

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Should I discourage Jake's mating behavior with me? (Long Post)
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 04:44:36 PM »

Aww it's nice that he is starting to bond with you and something to look forward to in the future, but as hard as it is, you mustn't encourage the mating behaviour. It can cause huge problems, which include plucking & mutilation, biting etc. You have to think on their level, it's a sexual thing that can't be fulfilled, it's massively frustrating for them & they don't understand it. When he starts the behaviour just walk away, it doesn't last forever & at least you have some hope for friendship in the next couple of months

You are obviously doing the right things, just continue as you are, he's only been with you a short time so give him time to trust :)
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Re: Should I discourage Jake's mating behavior with me? (Long Post)
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 05:14:58 PM »

Bless him
Spring adds to he mating behaviour
So if you can give 13/14 hours dark time
No animal proteins and avoid warm foods
And I know you say you can't let him but if you manage to then it's no letting below the head as this is also sexual behaviour :crazy:
As Kaz said it really needs ignoring
It won't last forever , he's just confused xx
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Re: Should I discourage Jake's mating behavior with me? (Long Post)
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 06:49:33 PM »

So it's good but it is not good.  It's tough being that he hasn't wanted interaction before.  I'm kinda afraid that if I don't give him the attention now when he wants it, I am losing a chance to bond with him.  However, I do understand the concerns of letting him act that way. 

Thanks all for the input.
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Re: Should I discourage Jake's mating behavior with me? (Long Post)
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 07:11:40 PM »

You've only really had him a short time so please be patient, you'll risk doing more damage than good, it can be psychologically damaging to continue petting them in that way. Its good for our egos but not for them.

You will not lose the chance to bond, better to give it another month than to risk having a biting, screaming bird forever. 

It really can be that bad


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Re: Should I discourage Jake's mating behavior with me? (Long Post)
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 07:37:02 PM »

What a little pickle, you've had the why not. So now pat yourself on your back you've cracked him.

Use it to your advantage, try not encourage the behaviour. First thing I'd work on is accepting hands as reward givers. Not just your own but others eventually. Once your fine start shaping the behaviour you already have the step up. You command prompt, for sure it's just a bit of nookie for him, but you should be able to break the behaviour by using it as training for step up.

Try to reward lots of no biting, it all seems backwards but it will work. Reward the good ignore the bad. It's about shaping the behaviour you want, from the behaviour they give.

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Re: Should I discourage Jake's mating behavior with me? (Long Post)
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 08:13:08 PM »

You've only really had him a short time so please be patient, you'll risk doing more damage than good, it can be psychologically damaging to continue petting them in that way. Its good for our egos but not for them.

You will not lose the chance to bond, better to give it another month than to risk having a biting, screaming bird forever. 

It really can be that bad


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I don't really pet him. ...he just steps up and starts doing his little dance and I can't get him off my hand! 
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Re: Should I discourage Jake's mating behavior with me? (Long Post)
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2016, 08:13:51 PM »

Thanks again for the input.  I will try to not let it happen, and see how it goes.
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