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Meet Eric - A Feather Plucker's Story
« on: June 08, 2009, 10:08:12 PM »

NOTE: Before attempting the application of any of the feather plucking remedies suggested here please take your parrot to your avian vet. You want to make sure the plucking is not caused by an illness, the neglect of which can be fatal to a parrot.
Please be extremely careful before attempting the addition of any substances into spray/bath water for parrots (like Apple cider vinegar, aloe vera juice, F10 etc.). More often than not foreign substances on birds' feathers irritate them and make plucking only more severe. Spraying with clear filtered or bottled water is the best bet to start with!  
The feather plucking is a very complicated problem which won't be resolved just by using any sort of spray for the feathers. The whole lifestyle of a parrot has to be looked over, primarily its diet, daily activities and environmental enrichment.



Ok here is Eric, Let me know what you think and what treatment's you would recommend i use with him and best way to go about it... he has about 2 red tail feathers that look new but chewed a bit....He is a little nippy at the moment tries to trick you into tickling him then will bite you! Monkey!!!

Anyway here he is  :thumbsup:























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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2009, 10:15:06 PM »

Bless him,  :cheekkiss: he doesnt look as bad as i expected. Cant help with plucking as fortunately not had to deal with it but im sure Mandy will point you in the right direction.  :thumbsup: Welcome home Eric,  :cheekkiss: Im sure you will be happy in your new home.  :cheekkiss: :cheekkiss:

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 10:35:33 PM »

Awww bless he's not as oven ready as i thought :) i haven't had much experience with feather pluckers so can't help:( i now have that stupid rhyme in my head though and shall go to sleep saying i'm not a pheasant plucker lol don't know why :-P
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2009, 10:57:08 PM »

He seems to have bare patches, so I wouldn't recommend spraying him much, though you can always try and see how he reacts to that. You can always just spray him from the top and tail but leave out his tummy.
His wings seem clipped in a horrible way, or did he just pluck them like that?
If it is possible, would be good if you noted when he plucks, if there is any pattern to it, and which parts he "favours" the most.

He is adorable! Naughty baby didn't leave much of his tail at all! His plucking looks quite severe to me, even though he has fluff and not too bald, he has gone almost all over his body, including vital ones, like tail and wings. Those two parts are essential for flying and consequently for survival. Ruining them, the bird jeopardizes its safety. I think he has serious mental issues and insecurities. I hope you will help him overcome them, Paula, and we will try to help you with it! :thumbsup:

I would think he needs a good vitamin supplement too and quite a lot of protein and calcium, all those new feathers require! Plus he has a very flaky beak.
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Re: Meet Eric - A Feather Plucker
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2009, 09:17:35 AM »

 :cry2: :cry2: Arww poor little mite, Paula you have a wonderful way with birds, I am sure with Mandy's help you will be able to put this baby right, ooohh  its so sad when they do this. :cry2:
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Re: Meet Eric - A Feather Plucker
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2009, 11:23:45 AM »

 :thumbsup: Thanks all .... i had thought he would be completly bald too by the ready for the oven term she used!

He is chatty this morning asking for a bath!

Thanks Irina, All the fruit i feed my greys has a vitamin on because of the breeders, if you can suggest anything else or a course to start on and follow of things to do, feed, bath that would be wicked, and Mandy if you can add anything i would be greatful!! Just a shame we are off in 5 weeks for 10 days so i wont be around for him!

Anyway any ideas would be great i am so stuck into thinking about the wedding and making sure i have everything covered i am alittle brain dead in thinking about treatment!

Thanks Guys your the best  :cheekkiss:
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Re: Meet Eric - A Feather Plucker
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2009, 01:54:15 PM »

He is cracking me up!!

When you shake anything he shakes up and dow too, if you stick your tounge out he does it too and so far he has said -

''Hello big boy''
''Do you wanna bath mate?''
''What you doin then''
''Hello Eric how are you''

Bless!!!

Seems to be coming round to me a bit more too  :thumbsup:
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Re: Meet Eric - A Feather Plucker
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2009, 01:54:56 PM »

Awww Paula bless his little heart.. he's not as badly plucked as i thought he would be either..but bless him. I'm glad he's come to you now.

You know where we were at with Poppy a few weeks ago..it was awful the vet wanted to tranquilize her.

I spoke with Lorna and June on the other forum..here is the plan they gave me..

Initially go  to Tescos and buy some ASPALLS CYDER VINEGAR

And also some red palm nut oil with canola its called carolino



Pop a teaspoon of cyder vinegar into the drinking water once a day..it will smell like scrumpy!! Perfectly safe to drink and that will help clean out the toxins from inside him (so will milk thistle if you have that it will help cleanse his liver too). As well as in his drinking water, fill your kitchen sink up with warm water and put a capful in it..and from this fill a 500ml spray bottle and bathe him with it..it will help improve his feather condition and also soothe the discomfort and prickle of bare skin patches and newly emerging feathers. This can be done as many times a day as you can. It seemed odd to me as i have always been advised not to spray them too many times a day as it can dry out the skin ( irina will back me up there...) However in this instance the theory is a wet bird cant or wont pluck, and as this is the bigger issue at the moment then try and keep him at least damp for much of the time if not saturated..that was the hardest thing for me as I was convinced it would give Poppy a chill or make her skin more sore but it worked..
Paula I know your birds already have palm nut paste on toast. This palm nut oil is reccommended because of the vitamins in it which a lot of pluckers are defficient in. I was advised to mix two teaspoons of palm nut oil with one of honey and a bit of butter and heat it all together in the microwave till its all runny, about 20 seconds..then drizzle it either on toast or better still on some of the fresh fruit or veg..all the parrots seem to go mad for it and it gets goodness into them.
If you've got a calcium and vitamin supplement sprinkle that on their food too, pluckers tend to be defficient in particularly vitamin A and calcium.
After a full week of cyder vinegar spraying you are ready to move onto F10..this is an veterinary disinfectant that will kill any virus or outer infection on the bird causing them to pluck..its also good for feather condition..it's what they use to treat bird flu apparantly. I had the horrors initially thinking it would be too harsh but I tried it and It does seem to work...I'm sure also that yvonne sells it on pine4parrots..and I think Irina does too? Its F10 SC Sol Concentrate 100ml and its £7.50 on ebay..make sure you get the concentrate and not the ready to use/ ready diluted one. So on week two, carry on with the cyder vinegar drinking water, but in the spray bottle but 1ml of F10 sc to 500ml of warm water..and spray as you did week one with the cyder vinegar Then week 3 spray with Cyder vinegar again, and then week 4 with F10 etc etc etc.
As well as the spray treatments put 2 pinches of Guardian Angel a day over the fruit or veg feed plenty of fruit and veg and lots of orange/red fruits/veg ie red/orange peppers carrots sweet potatoes red grapes. the red foods provide the extra vitamin A content.Guardian angel is a natural herbal stress reliever for parrots so if Eric is plucking from stress which is very likely then it will help him settle. Its available from many online pet suppliers..but the link is just to show you what it is..http://www.dietecuk.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=2606
As the weeks go by and Eric plucks less you will be able to reduce the amount of times you spray him per day..You will notice an all round improvement in the condition and colour of his little feathers. You can also buy F10 ointment from ebay etc if he has any sore patches to treat.
Wish you loads of luck and I hope it goes well let us know how he gets on.
Awww poor bird..again I wish I lived nearer to you....give him a snug from me and lots of love :cheekkiss:
Irina has other treatment methods which work as well..she will post up her own plan for you..but this is the one I am following and it's worked for me. Its up to yourself and Rick to choose which suits you best..but either way i wish you luck..get well soon Eric xx
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Re: Meet Eric - A Feather Plucker
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2009, 02:29:27 PM »

Thank you so much hun really helpful and good to have it written out in front of me, what with 3 sick kids all the birds im looking after and the wedding planning i haven't got time to think! I will pop into tesco on my way home after the gym and get some of that Cyder Vinegar and what do i do with the carolino?? or is that just to get if i dont have palm nut paste? I do have that so do i just use that or best to get the carolino?

I tell you what that is a great blog post and article there  :dance: (Will get Rick to sort your access out later)

Thanks again  :cheekkiss: and i am looking forward to helping Eric get better roll on tomorrow so i can start  :thumbsup:



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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2009, 02:43:25 PM »

I agree with most of the stuff Mandy said.
Though palm nut paste is better than Carotino oil - Carotino is just a cheaper alternative - palm oil diluted with rapeseed oil.
He now needs alot of protein to build feathers, especially sulphur-containing amino-acids. I think they can be found in Guardian Angel (I can get it for you, Paula, wholesale price is about 8.40). Animal protein will do him good now. Give him less nuts and fatty seeds, so that he doesn't fill up on them, but leaves more space for protein-rich foods.
Essential fatty acids are also important for him. You can grind up some flax seed and sprinkle on his food, or add some hemp seed and wheat germ to his diet. Palm paste has some too.
Enzymes are needed for proper digestion and absorbtions of nutrients. Best sources are papaya and pineapple. I buy a whole papaya fruit (ripened on the tree!) and cut the whole fruit up with the skin and pips and freeze. Defrost as needed.
Probiotic could be beneficial too. I believe it is included in Guardian Angel.

As far as I understand, he had a happy life and wasn't abused, was he?
I think before you start bathing him in a sink or spraying him every minute, give him time to settle in. Otherwise, it can make the problem worse. Poppy knows Mandy, so she trusts her, whereas Eric doesn't know you that well, and extreme bathing can scare him and make him feel insecure (like it did with my Blaze and he started plucking even more).
I think his plucking stemmed from feeling of insecurity. He was not only abandoned and moved to a separate room, but also in a conservatory was all surrounded by windows. Birds and other animals could have scared him and it could trigger plucking. He will now need a safe corner for his cage or at least two sides of the cage covered.
Plus: lots of toys, full-spectrum light or sunshine regularly, foraging opportunities during the day.

Paula, has he plucked so far?
If he does, note at what time of the day he does it mostly, how much, how often, before or after eating, and all other possible details related to it, but without letting Eric now that you are noting it all down!
I think it is more important to understand exactly why he plucks, than just to try to cure him from all directions from something he doesn't have.

Of course this habit developed overtime, so it will take a while to go away. If it is not caused by disease or any other problems, and just behavioral, as it seems to be in this case, such measures as detox and even F10 are not required. It is a good thing though, if for anything, you could use it to clean cages :D (Yes i can get that too, as always for less than anywhere else :biggrin: ).

For a mild detox, you can give him some dandelion tea (sold in health food shops) in a separate bowl, it is very good for liver and kidneys. Just make it 1/3 tea and 2/3 water.

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Re: Meet Eric - A Feather Plucker
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2009, 03:00:27 PM »

Thanks Irina  :biggrin:

Great advice also, I did think maybe holding off from spraying him and letting him settle in even though he keeps saying ''You wanna bath mate'' lol

I haven't noticed him pluck anything out so that is something... i will keep an eye on him though, I have palm nut oil so will use that. If you can get me some F10 and some Guardian angel  as you say the F10 always handy to have about, i will have a look also if there is anything else i need but i defo want that.. (oh i havent forgotten about having a chat with you it is in hand, me and Rick are talking about it and where we hope to go with the site and you, so hang in there and we will be intouch soon  :biggrin:)

It seems it is stress related, he seems quite flaky though and itches a fair bit, but would it hurt to treat him with F10 just incase? I haven't let him mix with the others just yet incase.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2009, 03:06:47 PM »

I have just updated my previous message, if you want to glance over it again, just forgot to put some things down first time round.
I can get both Guardian Angel and F10. Do you want concentrate then? Might be more economical, if you have many birds and cages to clean :) Shall I order them for you then?

You could always try to give him a gentle spray, just don't make him soaking wet yet, maybe?
I will look more information up about flaky skin and things to use for that.


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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2009, 04:03:38 PM »

I've just read more about skin conditions. Aloe very dries the skin, so if Eric already has flaky skin better keep that off. Calendula is the herb for him. You can buy it in health-food shops or online. I got mine from here http://www.spiceworld.uk.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=calendula&x=0&y=0
I just put a good pinch in a cup, pour boiling water over it, cover the cup and let it stand for an hour or till the water becomes cool. then pour in a spray bottle and add an equal amount of water.
Calendula is a great natural anti-bacterial herb, so you wouldn't even need F10 in this case, I think. But that is up to you.

Another thing I have just read about. If you have a spare bowl in the cage, put some water with a bit of sea salt (one teaspoon per litlre of water), apparently it also helps with plucking! (That is from the words of a respected parrot specialist, who has nursed lots of birds back to life and gives lectures all over the world).
It has to be a spare bowl though, clear water should always be available separately. They need to have a choice.


PS: Mandy, when you sprayed Poppy, did you spray her whole body or just her bottom and tail?
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2009, 05:25:13 PM »

Hi Irina..I sprayed Poppy's body all over.. And Paula the palm nut paste or the oil will do just as well..the oil is just easier to soak into the foods thats all. Try mixing the paste and see how you get on he will still be getting the goodness and there's no point buying more if you already have it..

Tell you what though Irina you have given me some food for thought there..you have extra ideas and tips that I haven't seen or tried bless you so thanks a million..Calendula is something I haven't tried with Poppy. I have to admit it sounds a less harsh spray if I'm honest...although I'm reluctant to change now as she is doing well but the more natural the better. I am interested to hear if anyone tries the sea salt too..

Irina what did you do for Blaze, Has he stopped now? I am intersted to know and as many different therapies to choose from as possible are good to have, a lot of birds pluck out there for whatever reason. And there's no "right" way to deal with it..I'd love to read about what you used? Poppy loves Pineapple and eats loads of it is that as good as Papaya?
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2009, 05:58:31 PM »

Thank you, Mandy :). It is wonderful that the method worked for you, and it does make sense to keep their feathers at least moist often, but I am just concerned because Eric is new to Paula's house, and it just might stress him out more.
I suggested Calendula because it is nourishing for skin for too, doesn't dry it out and is full of beneficial compounds which will get inside of him, when he will be preening his feathers. F10 is good too, but it doesn't do anything for the condition of the skin. It just kills all bacteria and microbes.
Papaya is as good as pineapple but they have different enzymes (papain and bromelain, hope i spelt it right :) ), so great to give both of them. I will reiterate because it is important. You should buy papaya which was ripened on tree (i buy them from Tesco), because unripe papaya carries toxic properties. If you get a tree ripened one, give it with skin and pips. They are good too.

I am going to try sea salt, but need to get a spare dish first, as I have one for water and two for food :)
With Blaze... As described, I try to provide him a varied diet with live enzymes (from sprouts and fresh fruit and veg) and give him papaya regularly, plus vitamin supplement. I give him chamomile tea regularly, as it has a calming effect.
Enough stimulation during the day, maximum time out of the cage so that he keeps himself busy.
Often give him food wrapped up in paper - it entertains him for awhile and provides some reward too.
I spray him regularly, with either water with cider vinegar, or chamomile tea or calendula. I used to spray his feet with very strong black tea or calendula - they both are very effective against bacteria. His bumblefoot problem is almost gone. There were black spots- no spots anymore. The skin still looks a bit too soft there, but it will take a bit of time for the skin to regenerate itself.
I rotate the additives to the spray water to maximise the benefits and minimize drawbacks.

When i tried to spray him all the time, he plucked a lot of feathers, though he was already getting very nice and feathery. So i stopped that. That is why I am abit cautious about this method now.

The single most important thing I do for him - is I have established his feather-plucking pattern, I know why he does it, so I am not concerned that it is health related. I think it is very important to find out the reason first, before treating it with "natural" methods.
The pattern is, as I mentioned before, he plucks early morning after he wakes up and before I open the cage cover and curtains. I get up at 5am every day without fail, because if I fail, I will have a pool of feathers on the bottom of the cage. I give him his food straightaway. If he doesn't want to eat healthy food, i just give him a piece of toast with palm oil or honey or both, or I spread some fruit puree or whatever is at hand, to keep things interesting. He whistles away happily all the time while I am with him in the room from 5am to 6am. After that I go back to sleep till 9am, he quiets down, but doesn't pluck anymore.

Of course he still plucks a bit from time to time (not counting spray incident - that was a period of bad plucking, I just didn't understand at first that this was the reason), it is a nasty habit, but his bottom is getting really feathery and his body is all covered in new feather pins. (know on wood).
From what I have read, it takes about 6 to 8 months to overcome the problem completely with habitual feather pluckers, if at all. Hope we will succeed :)

I agree with you, Mandy that there is no right cure for the problem. The reason always has to be established first. Feather plucking can be caused by serious health problems, parasites, mites, bacterial and viral infections, so on, so just using tell-tale methods can be even dangerous.
We know here the reason of Eric's plucking, I know the reason of Blaze's plucking, and you know the reason of Poppy's plucking, so we can safely discuss these methods, but I wouldn't recommend other people to use JUST them, without establishing the cause.
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2009, 06:10:57 PM »

Thanks Irina.. :thumbsup:

We've been through such a similar time with our babies it makes sense to "pool" our resources and ideas..I will be buying Calenula and Chamomile tea and giving both a go in due course..you have a good point about varying treatments for maximum effect and minimal drawback..I will also check out tescos for the tree ripened papya.
Let me know how you get on with the sea salt?
Obviously frequent spraying didn't help Blaze in the slightest then. Each bird is different and by observing them we know what suits them and what doesn't..I think its important for people to realise that. And I also agree with you that its important to determine the trigger for the plucking and deal with it otherwise nothing will work will it?

I have learnt a lot from you and I appreciate it, you're a treasure  :thumbsup: thank you  :cheekkiss:
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2009, 06:32:21 PM »

Thank you, Mandy, you are so great at reassuring and complimenting!  :bighug: I find a lot of the information on my russian forum. It has 17000 users (so alot of knowledge goes about) with the most experienced and educated people I have ever met, when it comes to birds, among moderators (not even sure why I was made one  :biggrin:). They are very up to date, alot of them speak and read english, plus their education (ornithologists, biologists, and just very experienced breeders) helps alot too.
It is very well moderated, and all potentially dangerous or useless information is removed. Another great thing is that regular users are not allowed to answer health and disease related questions, only moderators which are part of the "Health-team"! But enough about it!  :biggrin: I just want to say I don't just make the information up, I use reliable sources, so it is not really me who is good, it is them. And of course I have probably visited all possible parrot sites on the web by now  :biggrin:
Well anyway, I just really hope it will help Eric and other birds, as what works for one bird, as we have established, won't for another, and it is good to have options and see what suits you better. After all it is not only just us three who have plucking parrots, there are hundreds and hundreds out there and some of the information we have shared might help them :)
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2009, 06:45:16 PM »

Oh yes, I have remembered one more good tip - Paula, if you have feathers which fell of your other birdies, give them to Eric to chew on, if you notice him chewing his feathers, it will distract him from chewing his own. Apparently it works and it is alright to do that too. I thought it was a bit weird, but some avian specialists say it is fine :)
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2009, 10:24:08 AM »

Can i just say that i have thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread, an extremely informative read for someone who it totally naive to these issues, as you all know I have only had my babies for a few weeks and i am sure that at some time i will experience these common problems, i would be lucky if i never did!
thank you for sharing Eric with us Paula, he is a beautiful bird with lots of character by the sounds of it!
Mandy, Paula & Irina? would you mind if i copied and printed your information "purely for my own reference" would that be ok?
I am also very interested in any of these as a preventative measure? I wonder if we could have some info on that aswell? Like a sort of conditioning tonic for healthy birds?
Can i add that as a keen gardener, snake & fish feeper i have come across some interesting info on watering & feeding, i know this has nothing to do with birds, but i will only use spring water when misting certain plants and keeping humidity for my snakes.
Some tap water can contain high amounts of chlorine which can irritate the skin, sometimes with dire consequenses, Fish can die if you dont use a water conditioner.
I will only use spring water for this reason, i also collect rain water which is "soft"
Its just a thought & i didnt see anyone mention it so i thought i would post, what are your thoughts on this? I was just wondering that if any parrot has a skin condition it may be an irritant?

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2009, 10:56:22 AM »

 :clap: :clap:  You know I have just read this and thought how great it is :clap: :clap: 

Mandy/Paula, have we got anywhere on the site for health Care, so that these sort of threads can go in there and get stuck, so we can all relate back to them if other birds start to suffer
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