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Re: Normal Flight Feather Moult In Parrots.
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2011, 02:27:11 PM »

Nothing shameless about the hint Greg  :biggrin:

I love the sound of the Stop/Stay command  :thumbsup:

Which book are these methods detailed in?
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Re: Normal Flight Feather Moult In Parrots.
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2011, 02:28:30 PM »

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  I don't know why I asked that question really, because that is what I do with Charlie, right down to the last bit of putting a bit of pecan nut on a perch where he is allowed.  I learnt it from your book!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  Now, I just need to get Charlie to read the book and we'll be fine!  

Thanks for that though, it's excellent training and help. x

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Re: Normal Flight Feather Moult In Parrots.
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2011, 11:06:40 AM »

Just thinking, as this is about moulting/new feather growth and also mentions about the possibility of clipped birds suffering broken blood feathers, maybe someone could post instructions as to how to treat a broken blood feather  :thumbsup:

This thread....

http://www.africangreyparrotcentre.co.uk/african-grey-forum/parrot-talk/managed-to-find-a-picture-of-alfies-wing/


....made me think about it :)

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Re: Normal Flight Feather Moult In Parrots.
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2011, 11:22:33 AM »

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If the bird has a broken blood feather, which is bleeding, use hemostat to "squeeze" the feather shaft to stop bleeding. If the bleeding doesn't stop, swiftly pull the feather out in the direction of growth and immediately apply a wet with Chlorohexidine cotton wool pad and press to the wound. The pressure has to be applied to stop the bleeding. Be careful when removing the pad, not to damage the blood clot.


Taken from here....

http://www.africangreyparrotcentre.co.uk/african-grey-forum/health-issues/parrot-first-aid-kit/msg23844/#msg23844

Would be great if a topic specifically dealing with a broken blood feather could be stickied so a panicking owner can find it quickly!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2011, 11:29:10 AM »

Nothing shameless about the hint Greg  :biggrin:

I love the sound of the Stop/Stay command  :thumbsup:

Which book are these methods detailed in?

Hi Bob,
I've written a series of parrot care books for Interpet, as "Birdkeepers' guides to... greys, Amazons and  cockatiels.  Plus a more detailed book on behavioural issues, Breaking Bad Habits in Parrots (not the parrots really have bad habits, but the publishers required it to be written under that title).   You can get them from me or from pet shops and book shops. 


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Re: Normal Flight Feather Moult In Parrots.
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2011, 03:19:49 PM »

Thought I'd post a link to a beautiful photo I took of Mojo in flight this afternoon :)

I think she currently has a full complement of flight feathers but it's hard to count them all! There is a gap in her right wing though because she broke one of her feathers the other day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/flipflopip/5856650524/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Posted a link as it's a big pic and I don't want to shrink and spoil it :)


Another of her with her wings outstretched.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/flipflopip/5856664992/sizes/l/in/photostream/



Shinda, not in flight but still showing the beautiful shape of unclipped wings :)


http://www.flickr.com/photos/flipflopip/5856109869/sizes/l/in/photostream/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/flipflopip/5856110745/sizes/l/in/photostream/

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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2011, 07:34:55 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2011, 07:48:25 PM »

wow, those are stunning photos.

Greg, from your experience, would you say African Greys have more problems than other parrot species when their wings are clipped or does it effect all species of parrots equally? (I am against clipping obviously, so just wondering), thank you.
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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2011, 08:24:48 PM »

I think that one of Mojo flying would be a good one to show people why Greys need a cage wider than a lot of retailers say! She's not even a big bird, Shinda's wing-span is even more impressive!

People who've never seen a Grey with it's wings open like that often don't appreciate just how much room they need to be able to flap their wings unhindered in the cage.

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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2011, 08:26:41 AM »

Hi Irina,
I think the risk of damage to blood feathers is related to wing-loading.  W-L is the ratio between the area of a birds' wings and the bird's weight, and this varies with species.  Greys, and some Amazons, esp O-w  have high wing-loading, so these species tend to flap at a greater speed (more flaps per second) than birds like cockatiels and conures who have a very low wing loading.   This high speed flapping, if it occurs during crash landings, is  more likely to result in damage to blood feathers as they break on impact.     

That said, no species of flying parrot has a behavioural repertoire to cope with flightlessness; it is not on their 'list of behaviours' to have to cope with.  A flightless wild parrot would soon be dead.   So we come back to clipping  and the physical and behaviural problems it unduces.   
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Re: Normal Flight Feather Moult In Parrots.
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2011, 09:00:18 AM »

This is a great thread Glen, thanks for posting!!

I'll have to pick up one of your books. But we are still on the basic step up and down with Flint - he is pretty good unless you try to put him down somewhere new or walk somewhere he doesn't want to go - then he will fly off.

But he steps up and goes to his cage nicely at least!
And he tries to fly to a place if you pat it and say c'mon. But he often chickens out at the last minute and lands nearby or circles back to his cage. But he is slowly making progress...your book might help me do the right things to encourage him!
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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2011, 01:40:12 PM »

Hi Pip,
I'm ok for greys feathers at the moment, but if anyone has any macaw feathers, I really need these now:  Moulted wing feathers (primaries) from;  B&G, Scarlet, and greenwinged. 

Send feathers to:
BirdsFirst
P O Box 1160
Axbridge
BS26 2WD. 

The feathers are given to avian vets for repairing damaged/badly clipped parrots. 

Thanks if you can help!


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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2011, 05:15:54 PM »

I find this so upsetting as my Gracie was clipped by my breeder before I picked her up. It seems to be standard practice over here and most breeders go on and on about how it is for their safety. When I was obviously put off by what she had done, she assured me she had only done a very modest clip and that Gracie had been allowed a lot of flight time which would help her psychologically but I think all that is richard the third, it was still taken away from her. Gracie does still fly about but I know not near as a fully flighted bird would  :blow: :blow:

I hope we don't run into these problems when she molts  :blow:
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« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2011, 07:58:31 PM »

Hi Eliza,
If you have a good b ird vet and want to repair her wings (to prevent blood feathers from breaking) let me know and I'll send your vet the feathers. 

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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2011, 08:17:42 PM »

I find this so upsetting as my Gracie was clipped by my breeder before I picked her up. It seems to be standard practice over here and most breeders go on and on about how it is for their safety. When I was obviously put off by what she had done, she assured me she had only done a very modest clip and that Gracie had been allowed a lot of flight time which would help her psychologically but I think all that is richard the third, it was still taken away from her. Gracie does still fly about but I know not near as a fully flighted bird would  :blow: :blow:

I hope we don't run into these problems when she molts  :blow:

Hi Eliza, my Charlie was clipped by his breeder and now we have big problems with him  :cry2:
However we are booked in to have his feathers imped, hopefully he will be able to fly in two weeks time  :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: never to be clipped again  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Greg is going to send donor feathers to the vet and Charlie is booked in next Tuesday.
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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2011, 08:21:20 PM »

Hope the imping works Jo.  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2011, 06:28:03 AM »

Good luck to you guys today Jo and please do keep use updated.

Greg, I am going to ask the vet about this when we go in to see her in a few weeks time. I am in Canada though, would you still be able to send feathers over here or direct me to a feather banks here?

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« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2011, 09:02:15 AM »

I'm sure he would be able to post them over. He sent some to Karmen in South Africa
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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2011, 08:16:40 AM »

Good luck to you guys today Jo and please do keep use updated.

Greg, I am going to ask the vet about this when we go in to see her in a few weeks time. I am in Canada though, would you still be able to send feathers over here or direct me to a feather banks here?


Hi Eliza,
Yes, that's no problem, I can always send you the feathers.  You might like to check first if you have a vet over there who can do this.  Vets who work with falconers' birds can all do imping, if you can't find a parroty vet who does this.   Let me know which (if both wings')  feathers are needed.  Airmail takes about 4 days to Canada. 
All the best,
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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2014, 10:43:25 AM »

Jamie, this is the post that explains the flight feather moulting process :)
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