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bkhowe

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Wing Clipping
« on: June 14, 2011, 02:14:51 PM »

More and more people seem to be clipping (or considering clipping) their birds wings, these are a few of the negative side effects it can have on your bird.

Birds were designed to fly, it's a physiological and behavioural need. It strengthens their cardiovascular and respiratory systems in a way that no other exercise does. And taking this option away can lead to displacement behaviours, some of which are very negative (feather-plucking, excessive screaming etc) also there is a lot of evidence that the lifespan of a clipped bird is drastically reduced due to inadequate exercise.

It can also lead to complacency on the part of the parrot owner and a big percentage of escaped birds are actually clipped, a clipped bird stands little chance of surviving for long in the wild.

There is also a much higher chance of injuries to the Parrot (especially the Keel bone) caused by crash landings, also if clipped at a young age the flight muscles will never develop properly.

So all in all I would say the disadvantages far outweigh the advantages.

Feel free to add your experiences to the thread  :thumbsup:



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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 02:30:53 PM »

Bob.
I fully agree with the above and i am totally against clipping any bird, we buy these birds so they can live a good full life and give them the best we can during its time with us and taking away the ability to fly, suits only one purpose to make life easier for us human keepers at the expense of the birds welfare, its our own stupidity if we let birds escape or fly into danger.
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 02:48:51 PM »

When I first had Charlie, he was clipped and also a Plucker,
 but with spending many hours with him and allowing him to feel good with me,
 and me with him he also started to allow me to touch him.
Things just blossomed, he stopped plucking and was eating a good pelleted diet with veggies and pulses, all was going great.
He finally grew back his feathers, I was so excited too see him fly, as nature intended over millions of years of evolution,
NO he can't fly, he will never fly, It's so sad to watch him watching both Chesta and Stumpy flying and he's stuck on the ground. His nearest flying is when he stands on his perch and I run up and down the lawn, he holds his little head out his neck stretched, and flaps like no tomorrow, but he never flies, he can't. :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 03:57:05 PM »

Well put Bob and I hope anyone thinking of doing this will read this information and change their mind.

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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 04:04:53 PM »

I dont agree with clipping at all. But what about in my case when my baby parrot has never learned to fly  :panic: :panic: :panic:
will she have troubles because of this? She has never once had a proper significant flight, its always been a flap to the floor or crash land  :blow:
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 04:05:45 PM »

Geff, i dont understand why cant he fly, poor little thing got tears in my eyes now :cry2: :cry2:
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 04:08:02 PM »

He probably just doesn't know what flying is, Malcolm. He's never had the chance to learn, let alone build up all of the muscles needed. It's so upsetting isn't it? I'm sure he would bluddy love to fly, he just can't and this shows the physical and mental issues it can cause. :'(
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 04:10:33 PM »

He can't fly because he never developed the muscle group required too fly, as he was clipped and not allowed out of the cage.
And he has no confidence in being able to fly.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 04:29:41 PM »

He can't fly because he never developed the muscle group required too fly, as he was clipped and not allowed out of the cage.
And he has no confidence in being able to fly.

geff do you think this could happen to tweak cos she has never learned? I really wish she would fly
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 04:37:33 PM »

Toria I've no idea, I must have run the distance of a few Marathons in giving Charlie lessons up and down the lawn, and he is as aerodynamic as a house brick. He just cant do it.
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 05:00:41 PM »

Oh Geoff, you have made me laugh at the thought of you running up and down your garden with a bird on a stick, but cry at the reasons why  :cry2:  :cry2:
Poor Charlie, I hope he makes people think twice  :flowers:
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 05:50:44 PM »

Jeff do you think one day he might fly,


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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 06:00:38 PM »

No I've had him over 12 months, and seems unlikely, he just has not got the knack, he just cant do it.,
But Stumpy who also was clipped, regrew his feathers and flies so well. But he was probably a flier when he was clipped.
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 06:08:58 PM »

Well I've got my fingers crossed for you and one day he will surprise you,
Omg the things people do to pets it's unbelievable,but you can only live and learn.I made 1 mistake and never never never again, clipping wings is something we got told to do from the pet shop ,but that was 7 years ago before we found this forum


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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 06:14:35 PM »

After we got his wings clipped 7 years ago , he thought he could fly and crashed to the floors we picked him up and he had another few attempts poor thing, then he said so clearly    I want to fly. Omg we were heart broken and never again have we done it . Ok when he flew we always said to him I want to fly when it looked like he was ready for the off, . We are just so careful now and he can fly in his aviary and in the house and we love him too bits so I think he must be happy.
Some people like me do things they get told from a pet shop but never again .


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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 08:54:15 PM »

Please if you are considering having your birds wings clipped, then please reconsider and don't do it.it has really turned my babies world upside down, it's very sad. :cry2:
Please read my posts about Charlies wings and you will see how bad things were and still are. Please take my advice and never ever get your birds wings clipped.there is no way we would do it again under any circumstances. It's an awful thing to do to tour bird and I am very anti clip now.
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2011, 02:36:38 PM »

Thanks Bob  and charlie for this thread; good stuff!

Re. teaching a non-flying bird to fly.    

Where a bird has been clipped as an immature/baby then its behaviural window for learning to fly, which occurs in the few weeks following fledging, will have been lost.  This can cause a bird to fail to fly properly for the rest of its life.  However, it is worth having the bird checked by an avian vet, re. its muscle development and heart condition etc.  

Some adult flight-scared birds learn to fly if they see *other birds* flying, and if they have access to an outdoor flight, with other birds they can see flying as well.  The wind outdoors, gives them free lift.  Learning to fly indoors in the 'dead' still air is quite hard for any bird.    
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2011, 02:52:19 PM »

It chills me to think that clipping a bird is an okay thing to do but the only successful wing clippings I've seen are in zoos and animal parks were the birds are living in as natural as possible flocks and they don't want them to fly off.

Ruth has finally taken proper flights around the lounge but her landings are still very awkward. At least we have carpet.

Years ago I owned a yellow cockatiel that was a rejected avery bird. She couldnt fly. Of course she would practice like crazy but as soon as her feet left the perch she dropped like a brick. After four years of no flight I awoke to my eyebrows being preened by the cockatiel!!! She had opened her door, flown to my bed and had made herself comfy. I never found out what finally worked for her but I can hold my hand up and say, you're not the only one that has been running up and down a garden with a bird on a perch!!!!
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2011, 05:08:51 PM »

Hello Hels,
But if you see birds in zoos and they are clipped, it's just as bad for them.  They are certainly not living a natural life if they cannot fly.  They should be in large aviaries where they can fly, not clipped at all. 
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2011, 06:17:00 PM »

An interesting read folks. I don;t agree with wing clipping and I know that my vet refuses to do it.
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