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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2011, 07:55:25 PM »

Hi greg,

ABSOLUTELY agree with you 100% - the stress the birds are put thru because they're semi wild is mind boggling. And no, I don't agree with it just because it's a successful technique to keep large birds without the expense of a huge purpose built aviary.

Don't even get me started on zoos!!! That's a rant waiting to happen. Sea life centres! The ones with dolphins & whales! Yup, best stop now!
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2011, 10:12:53 AM »

A lot of people have been curious as to if wing clipping is an acceptable practice for their bird. On this forum most members are extremely passionate about this subject and are against the idea of taking away a birds flight.

There are many heated discussions on the subject to be found dotted around the forum so can any members please refrain from opening a new topic on this discussion as the vast majority have already voiced their views.

http://www.africangreyparrotcentre.co.uk/african-grey-forum/feather-issues-and-grooming/the-negative-effects-of-clipping-a-parrots-wings/

http://www.africangreyparrotcentre.co.uk/african-grey-forum/feather-issues-and-grooming/to-clip-wings-or-not/

http://www.africangreyparrotcentre.co.uk/african-grey-forum/feather-issues-and-grooming/wing-clipping-15458/

AGPC is AGAINST wing clipping

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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2011, 10:28:19 AM »

Reasons often giving for clipping..


"My bird keeps flying at me and 'attacking' me so I've got to clip it's wings".

I've got one of those, I will NEVER clip his wings. Ask for advice, find a solution, even if that means just making sure you try and stay out of the line of fire.



"My bird keeps chewing my stuff so I've got to clip it's wings".

So move the stuff out of the way when the bird is out! Cover it up! Move it to another room!



"I'm scared my bird will fly into the window so I'm going to clip it's wings".

Drop the blinds. Use net curtains. Use window decals.



"I'm scared my bird will fly out of the door so I'm going to clip it's wings".

Put warning signs up on doors when the bird is out. Lock the doors so people have to knock to come in or ask for the key to go out. Make a vestibule by a front door using voile panels. Learn to be careful.



"I'm scared my bird will fly into the wall as he is so fast. I'm going to give him a little clip to slow him down".  

Birds use ALL their flight feathers to slow themselves down. Clipping them shorter is tantamount to cutting the brake pipes on a car.


"I want my bird to come out and stay on it's playstand the whole time and not bother me so I'm going to clip it's wings".

Buy a toy parrot then.


"I want to take my bird outside safely so I'm going to clip it's wings".  

Firstly, a gust of wind could carry off a clipped bird and a clipped bird has very little chance of survival once away from it's owner and out in the wild. Try harness training. Take the bird out in a travel cage. Build an aviary.



As you'll see, just about ALL the reasons for clipping are actually down to the owner being too bone idle to make their home safe, to work through problems, to make any effort for their bird.



One argument for clipping which always amuses me is this great one "Well he'll still be able to get around, he'll be able to walk".

Is that right? Ok then, how about you have your kneecaps removed so you can't walk. Then I'll give you a wheelchair. You won't be able to walk again but you'll be able to get around in your wheelchair so you'll be fine   :dance:



Don't take away your birds' absolute right and need to fly  :thumbsup:




























































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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2011, 06:41:44 PM »

I really wish someone would ban all of the wing clipping instruction videos on youtube!!!

I was having a barny with a one person last night on there who swears its ok to clip because one she has 4 birds and hers have never suffered any effects!! Gggrrrrr!!!!! :baseballbat: :baseballbat:

I kept asking her if she had dogs and would she consider chopping their legs off so they couldnt run away?
She couldn't understand that this was exactly the same as clipping their wings!! Idiot!!!!!

Why cant they understand the levels of mental and physical damage they can do to their birds?

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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2011, 07:41:56 PM »

It's frustrating isn't it how people get stuck in one way of thinking and they probably can see what you mean but don't want to admit they might be wrong   :grumble:
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2011, 09:59:59 PM »

I was a ignorant person before finding AGPC i used to have a senegal parrot (Charlie) who never really flew much but one day he got out and i was heartbroken, i never did get him back. When the time came that i thought about getting another parrot i was considering getting it`s wings clipped so that i didn`t lose him because i thought with my little Charlie not bothered about flying much that all parrots were the same, how wrong was i!! I am so glad i found this site before i did get G-G clipped because it changed my mind totally, My G-G loves to fly and i would never take that away from him or any bird.
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2011, 10:12:37 PM »

I was a ignorant person before finding AGPC i used to have a senegal parrot (Charlie) who never really flew much but one day he got out and i was heartbroken, i never did get him back. When the time came that i thought about getting another parrot i was considering getting it`s wings clipped so that i didn`t lose him because i thought with my little Charlie not bothered about flying much that all parrots were the same, how wrong was i!! I am so glad i found this site before i did get G-G clipped because it changed my mind totally, My G-G loves to fly and i would never take that away from him or any bird.

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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2011, 10:21:55 PM »

Thanks Tez :cheekkiss:
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2011, 10:55:38 PM »

I know what you mean Angie, when we got our 1st birdie, Frodo we were such numpties, but luckly for us we joined in the 1st week of getting Frodo and never made that mistake of clipping.
I have a lot to be thankful for with this site as I dread to think what harmful things I might of done if it was not for the valuable information here.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2011, 11:09:14 PM »

It`s a shame though that you get so many people like the person Jennifer was arguing with where nothing will change their minds about clipping
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2012, 08:55:43 PM »

Have to say I am also totally against clipping, it's un-natural and cruel.
It's like cutting someone's legs of for no reason !
Birds were made to fly, and I'm pretty sure that they must feel phycalogicly damaged after it being done.  :nono: :nono: :nono:
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Re: Wing Clipping
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2012, 09:23:31 PM »

There are occasions when Clipping is the only option - but these are few ad far between

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