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Visited the vets today for plucking - straight to endoscope?

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Visited the vets today for plucking - straight to endoscope?
« on: February 25, 2017, 07:38:40 PM »

Hi, our grey has sadly been plucking her chest and legs as well as mutilating her flight feathers. We've seen lots of good advice on here about how best to approach this but the consensus seems to be that first we should visit an avian vet to rule out any underlying health issues.

I took her yesterday and after discussing a few things relating to environment and diet etc he wants our grey back in next week to do some exploratory work. He wants to give her an anaesthetic and take an x-ray, a blood sample and finally put an endoscope in to have a look around (he specifically mentioned looking at the ovaries - seemed to be relating to our grey being 5 and becoming mature).

I hate asking an expert for advice and then questioning it... but can someone reassure me this is appropriate? It feels quite intrusive as a starting point. I can understand the blood sample but I would have expected the next step to be a feather or skin sample perhaps. I'm debating getting a second opinion but that will likely delay things by a couple of days.

Any advice or opinions would be welcomed, I just want to make sure we do the best for her.   

[edit] the other think that raised my concern was that if the x-ray, blood test and endoscope results were clear he mentioned prozac as a potential next step.
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Re: Visited the vets today for plucking - straight to endoscope?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 08:42:26 PM »

I too would be a little concerned at that, it really seems an overkill for the first checks.

I don't even know what an endoscope exam would achieve at this point.
I can understand that when she's anaesthetised it makes sense to do other tests to save doing it again but surely it's better to find out of all that is necessary beforehand.

Are you insured? Are you a regular with your vet, it's definitely an avian vet isn't it?
It could also be the vet is very experienced and has seen this before. Might be worth raising your concerns with the vet


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Re: Visited the vets today for plucking - straight to endoscope?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 09:28:36 PM »

Thank you for your reply.

No, we aren't insured and the proposed is obviously very expensive, but the cost won't factor into the decision. We will do what is right for her.

They aren't avian exclusive but the practise claims to specialises in exotics including avian. It has a good reputation. I've been with another parrot many years ago but haven't seen this particular vet before. From a laymans point of view he certainly appeared knowledgeable.

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Re: Visited the vets today for plucking - straight to endoscope?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 10:42:09 PM »

My avian vet is an exotic specialist & she's very knowledgeable & has a parrot herself so I trust her.

I would just try & talk it through with your vet, they sound pretty good and should be able to tell you why they think each step is necessary. You are well within your rights to just ask them to start with a blood test.

Like you say money isn't really a factor when it comes to our feathers babies but it'd be nice to know that expensive tests are not  just being done as an elimination test.
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Re: Visited the vets today for plucking - straight to endoscope?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2017, 02:12:52 AM »

Pretty standard plucking bomb and prozac mention to though I'd expect chemical castration before doping. They tend to get stuck on over bonded hormonal behaviour.

We had bloods, endoscope, xrays, collar and chemical castration. None worked bill was a good 500 went in a girl came out a boy.

To put your mind at rest my vet at the time was working zoomed did avian and had access to the lead who has written grey papers. Yet you could argue they missed a lot of other medical angles left uninvestigated.

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