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Head Shaking
« on: August 21, 2009, 08:45:57 PM »

My grey head shakes constantly in the evening and seems itchy she has seen a vet twice and had two corses of antibiotics although she couldn't really find anything wrong with her other than she thought she was a bit off colour. She is regularly treated for parasites.Has anyone any suggestions as to what may be wrong or a brillant vet ! you can recommend
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 08:50:07 PM »

first of all, Winnie, how old is your Grey? what sort of diet does he have? where do you live (that is for the vet)? And can you describe the shaking a bit better please?
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 09:19:00 PM »

Shaking or twitching???
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009, 09:39:55 PM »

Good evening everybody,
Marley does this head shaking or twitching to so am interested in whether or not this is normal.
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 09:43:27 PM »

I think the twitching means a vitamin deficiency. My Bertie twitches too, I think she is vitamin A deficient.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 10:03:38 PM »

Digby shakes his head, but I presume he is just putting things in place this way, like feathers and everything. Sometimes he shakes his head when I offer him something he doesn't like too.
So really would be good to know what everyone means really. Anyone has a video?
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 10:13:25 PM »

Bertie definitely twitches. When the vet checked her throat, he said it still was all smooth when it should be spikey, so that is the vitamin A dificiency. She shakes and ruffles but I agree that is down to repositioning feathers. She just twitches in her sleep, bless her  :cry2:
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 10:22:33 PM »

I've looked on some websites, and it never mentions vitamin a deficiency but rather Calcium deficiency which is very likey with an african grey baby. What sort of diets are your greys on, Jeff and Winnie?
I have also read that twitching in Greys is common as a reaction to different sounds and voices.

Soo, I think you concentrate too much on vitamin A deficiency. Do you know that you can overdose on Vitamin A which can lead to liver toxicity?
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 10:28:53 PM »

I know about over dosing. The vet said in time with her improved diet, her level of vitamin A should increase naturally. I do not give any supplements but I do give food mixes high in vitamin A, ie Sweet potatoe, kale etc
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 10:31:03 PM »

ah well that is alright then, you can't overdose on naturally occurring vitamin A, or rather carotene. If her diet is not high in fats overall, add some carotino or palm fruit extract to her diet, these are very rich in vitamin A.
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Re: Head Shaking
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2009, 10:33:56 PM »

I give both Haydes and Bertie Avix booster which is red palm oil. I guess it's just gonna take time for her body to recover after being on seed for 8 years with her previous owners.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2009, 10:36:20 PM »

I see, she has gone such a long way already, she looks gorgeous!
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2009, 10:41:39 PM »

Thank you :rose: I guess a parrot living on seed for 8 years would be like a human living on fry ups for 8 years. Very tasty, very morish, but oh so very bad for you :biggrin: It's just her weight and her over preening that's driving me crazy at the mo :cry2:
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2009, 10:42:43 PM »

Do you mean plucking by over-preening or what do you actually mean?
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2009, 10:51:21 PM »

When we first got her she was plucking and over preening, as in chewing her feathers. She stopped the plucking but continued to chew her feathers. Her chest feathers are very tatty. I have read up on this and have tried spraying her everyday to get her to stop. Unfortunately she then stopped enjoying her sprays and still chews her feathers when she is dry. Some research that I have done states this maybe be something that she will always do, and may never be able to stop. It just drives me mad, it's horrible to watch because it's so obsessive.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2009, 10:53:11 PM »

Have you tried Calcivet? The thing is that feathers are basically calcium and proteins, she might just be lacking calcium, hence head twitching too.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009, 10:55:50 PM »

I asked the vet about Calcivet but he wasn't keen, he's not a fan of supplements.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2009, 11:00:21 PM »

is that why he prescribes all the Harrison's branded supplements, like avi builder and avi-booster?  :biggrin: Calcivet is a very good supplement and unfortunately birds are very often deficient in it, because the best sources of calcium are those birds are not supposed to it. In nature they get it from insect shells and some wildly grown plants of course, because these are much richer in calcium and other nutrients than cultivated varieties. Cultivated and grown in greenhouses veg are often grown on depleted soils, or even worse, using hydroponics method.
I would strongly recommend using calcivet at least once a week, because head twitching, feather chewing and feather plucking are just some of the symptoms of calcium deficiency.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2009, 11:02:42 PM »

Speaking of supplements, does your vet suggest feeding Harrisons pellets? Does he think vitamins in it are all natural? They are all synthetically produced ones, so feeding pellets is almost the same as giving regular foods plus a vitamin supplement. The only difference, that apart from vitamins and minerals pellets also have a balanced amount of carbohydrates, proteins and fats.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2009, 11:07:55 PM »

My old vet suggested Harrison's, Avix etc. My new vet has a slightly different attitude, he says that there is no proof that supplements work, no proof that they don't, no proof that are good and no proof that they are bad. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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