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Head shaking
« on: October 22, 2013, 09:49:55 PM »

Following on from my recent thread regarding my concerns re my grey Arnie, I'm looking for a bit of reassurance from everyone

Arnie has always shuck his head every now and then, as if there is water in his ear (best way I can describe it) but I'm worried this has increased in frequency. That said, Ifind mmyself studying his every move these days so it could just be my paranoia

What I was wondering was does your grey do it and how often would you say?

As you may have read, Arnie has been to the vet in the last couple of weeks and they seemed to think he was fine. The frequency he's doing it since then has not increased

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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2013, 10:09:55 PM »

Yeah think they all do this, I think it's to dislodge something or just a general itch. I don't think it's anything to worry about but just keep a check of how many times a day it happens. Mine often does this after doing a 'yawn' kind of thing too.
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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 10:25:47 PM »

Hi :)
Does Arnie have acces to a uv light at all ??
Did he have bloods done at the vet and was the vet avian??
Iv seen the head twitching in a few birds and it can be a lack of calcium
Could be in his interest to convert to pellet if you haven't already done so too x


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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 07:14:12 AM »

Hi :)
Does Arnie have acces to a uv light at all ??
Did he have bloods done at the vet and was the vet avian??
Iv seen the head twitching in a few birds and it can be a lack of calcium
Could be in his interest to convert to pellet if you haven't already done so too x


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No, he doesn't have a uv light and it's something I need to get

The vet was avian but didn't take bloods, she said she'd need to give him a general anaesthetic to take it and the risk of that worried me

I've been trying to get him on pellets for months. I'd say circa 30-50 percent of his diet is pellets. He does get calcivet in his water twice a week though

Do any of your greys twitch their head?

Whilst typing this I've also noticed that when he does it he makes a slight sniffle/sneeze noise

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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 07:20:37 AM »

Converting to pellets is easy if ou can be strong
Iv converted many within a couple days
Just go cold turkey
Feed pellets and nothing else
He won't starve himself , he will eat if he is hungry even if it takes upto 3 days it won't kill him
You could even add a little fruit juice on them to tempt him :)
Mine dnt twitch heads but iv used avian lights from day one
One of my greys have been under anesthetic a Number of times , yes it's a worry but it's quick

Could you take a vid so we can see how frequent it is your birdie is doin it

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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 10:16:17 AM »

I have a head twitcher, not so often these days but in the past I have seen her doing it a lot.
Infact when she was at the vets overnight a few months back he rang me to ask if the head shaking was normal for her as she had been doing it a lot in their care. I thought it could have been a nervous issue at the time.

I'm not sure if there is a link between a calcium deficiency and head shaking but this bird was a re-home and she has had a serious calcium deficency at some point, the vet commented on how her bones are quite soft and she also has very wonky legs and a slightly deformed foot. We had bloods done and it showed normal healthy calcium levels so at least I know she is doing well now on a healthy pellet diet with plenty of UV light. It might be worth getting a blood test done.

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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 04:32:00 PM »


Converting to pellets is easy if ou can be strong
Iv converted many within a couple days
Just go cold turkey
Feed pellets and nothing else
He won't starve himself , he will eat if he is hungry even if it takes upto 3 days it won't kill him
You could even add a little fruit juice on them to tempt him :)
Mine dnt twitch heads but iv used avian lights from day one
One of my greys have been under anesthetic a Number of times , yes it's a worry but it's quick

Could you take a vid so we can see how frequent it is your birdie is doin it

The light is on offer at 69 inc bulb at the moment
http://scarlettsparrotessentials.co.uk/avian_sun_lamp_starter_kit


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Sorry to butt in, glad I read that, just gone cold turkey yesterday with Ruby and I was wobbling till I read that. Stay strong 😁 don't fall for the feed me eyes!!!
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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 10:18:46 PM »

 thanks for all the replies, few more questions now though.....

The uv light, can these bulbs be fitted to most lamp fittings? I'm probably going to need to get one that fits in with the house/room, might get grief from the other half if I don't!

What's the best way of using these also by this I mean how many hours a day? Height above cage? And do I just put it above his favourite perch?

Regarding the vet wanting to take bloods, is the only way to put him to sleep? If so, how many of you have had this done and how risky is it? By this I mean, should I only have it done as a last resort or just to be certainall is ok?

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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 05:24:34 AM »

The lamp can be any but must point straight down
The lamp kit from Scarlett's
Comes with a bendy kneck so it can be pointed and positioned over the cage
It also has a reflector so the birdie gets all the light and half isn't wasted into the room

I use mine for around 3 hrs a day and shine it down above the cage around 6 inches above

My peach has been out under anesthetic a few times
It's never been a problem
One time she was Havin a cyst cut n cleaned and she was back in the waiting room with me within less than 15 mins
That included goin to sleep the procedure and waking up :) x


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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 08:04:11 AM »

The lamp can be any but must point straight down
The lamp kit from Scarlett's
Comes with a bendy kneck so it can be pointed and positioned over the cage
It also has a reflector so the birdie gets all the light and half isn't wasted into the room

I use mine for around 3 hrs a day and shine it down above the cage around 6 inches above

My peach has been out under anesthetic a few times
It's never been a problem
One time she was Havin a cyst cut n cleaned and she was back in the waiting room with me within less than 15 mins
That included goin to sleep the procedure and waking up :) x


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Thanks Mandi

I'm ordering a sun lamp today - lets just hope he takes to it, as he hates anything new! 

Is there an optimum lighting time?  I've read that some people claim their vets say to have it on 12 hours a day?!  I'm not bothered about electricity costs (I used to have a ridiculous sized marine fish tank until not too long along and that used to used electric like crazy), I just want to the best for Arnie

I'll see how he goes in terms of health/activity, etc, and if I'm still concerned I'll take him to the vet for bloods.  At least at the same time I can get him DNA'd - after 21 years it would be nice to finally know if he is actually a he!
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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 12:20:07 PM »

Im sure arnie will be fine with the lamp. I had no problems with bobby who is scared of her own shadow lol. Did u know they are virtually colourblind without UV light? For that reason I think they quite gladly accept one without a fuss.

I have mine on probably about 8 hours a day  for 2 birds I just turn the bendy neck round to the other cage so about 4 hours each but it comes with full instructions ;)
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 03:02:37 PM »

Im sure arnie will be fine with the lamp. I had no problems with bobby who is scared of her own shadow lol. Did u know they are virtually colourblind without UV light? For that reason I think they quite gladly accept one without a fuss.

I have mine on probably about 8 hours a day  for 2 birds I just turn the bendy neck round to the other cage so about 4 hours each but it comes with full instructions ;)

Thanks - I have my fingers crossed he'll be alright with it.  He's a funny one - hates new toys, new perches, anything like that - new cage and huge java tree, took to it pretty much straight away!
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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2013, 07:10:48 PM »

Here's (well I hope it works) a video of Arnie earlier this afternoon - it's only a few seconds long but gives you an idea of the head shaking.  It's not great quality but should explain more than I can in words

Now he doesn't do this all the time, a few times a day maybe.  The amount of actual head shakes varies from once to the amount in the video.  I should add that he's done this for as long as I can remember but I'm wondering if it's increasing

The video was taken before he had a bit of an afternoon nap today, hence sat fluffed up.  An hour before he was walking around the top of his cage chatting like crazy, I'll try and upload that video too as a comparison

If you can let me know what you think, if you bird ever does similar, etc, I'd really, really appreciate it

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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2013, 10:21:09 PM »

I think that's a tone/sound that irritates the ears, Yvie does this when we're playing and singing and i hit a note or sound that is sharp to her
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Re: Head shaking
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2013, 11:05:28 PM »

Severe head twitching is vitamin a deficiency. I worried about jasper as she does this late at night sometimes, I wonder if its the temperature drop too x
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2013, 11:30:40 PM »

I think that's a tone/sound that irritates the ears, Yvie does this when we're playing and singing and i hit a note or sound that is sharp to her

I had thought that too but he often does it when there is no sound that would cause it as such
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2013, 11:34:17 PM »

Severe head twitching is vitamin a deficiency. I worried about jasper as she does this late at night sometimes, I wonder if its the temperature drop too x

What did you do to correct it? I'm contemplating getting a blood test done but the vet says they need to do it under a general anaesthetic, which worries me in itself. I saw on you tube it being done by a vet whilst the bird was awake, the vet said duringtthe clip that anaesthetic wasn't normally required on there though
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2013, 12:04:04 PM »

Just took Arnie to the vet for a blood test, he wasn't too impressed! The vet gave him a sedative drop in his nostril to do it. All went well, we're back and he's now having a little nap. At least I'll have absolute peace of mind now.

They're going to dna sex him/her as well, so after 21 years I'll finally know what sex he/she is!
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2013, 06:59:27 PM »

Let's hope the results are all good :crossed:
Be good to know what sex he is though x


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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2013, 08:49:29 PM »

I mentioned this to jaspers old vet years ago,  and as he thought it could be dust or anything, he recommended f10, as at the timd she did have clear discharge running from her nostrils ( also another sign of vitamin a deficiency) which still happens occasionally, but I'm not worried as it's only occasionally.

It's good you got arnies blood checked for your peace of mind, and with little stress too I didnt realise you could sedate birds through the nostril. Hope all comes back good for arnie  :thumbsup:
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