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chigz1

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Mutilator
« on: September 04, 2016, 09:45:52 AM »

Hi all,

So Lucky has been plucking/mutilating for around 2 years now. We have taken him to 2 vets (Lawton and Stoakes and C J Hall) and had bloodworks done but they couldn't find any underlying medical condition.

He mutilates under his wing pretty badly so we have had to keep him in a collar. Once it heals we take the collar away and try and stop him going at that area but eventually the collar has to come back.

This time his has damaged the area under his wing pretty badly and due to it being scar tissue it wont heal or tears as soon as he moves his wings.

Would appreciate any advise one what I can do, I was thinking about bandaging the wing down so he doesn't keep lifting it.

Thank you!


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Re: Mutilator
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 05:00:35 PM »

Hi
I have a mutilator too mine targets her vent area to the point where it bleeds and gets very sore we use a collar when it's bad.
Do you know what triggers the bird to do it? I know with mine she does it at night so once she's healed from the last lot of damage she's done we're going to try collar on just at night time to see it if makes a difference it's trial and error I've tried covering / not covering and darkness and night light but so far nothing makes a difference and once the area gets sore she won't leave it alone.
My other grey used to chew her flight feathers whenever I left her so we were able to work on getting her foraging to keep her occupied whenever I was about to leave the house and that stopped her doing it. Once you find what triggers the behaviour you can work on correcting it.

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Re: Mutilator
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2016, 08:15:32 AM »

What do you do when it bleeds?
Lucky has been bleeding for a week now. Its a wound that keeps opening up when he stretches his wings. Not sure if I should just bandage the wing down for now?

Woke up this morning with a small pool of blood in his cage.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2016, 12:25:24 PM »

When it gets to the point of bleeding we have no option but to put the collar on she then can't reach it to make it any worse. I also use F10 cream on it. Does it still bleed even when you have the collar on him? Poor mite.

Is it an avian vet you've been seeing?


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Re: Mutilator
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2016, 03:01:11 PM »

I'd thought cj hall would be the better one. Other seems more reptile based.

I know it sounds bizarre but you say we try to stop... I suspect you're inadvertently negatively reinforcing. It's by replacing it, by rewarding the good stuff. Allowing them to be them grumpy selves and choose.

Writing this highlighted it clearer to me. It's about helping them make the right choice.

Mutilators are the real enigma.. is it just an extreme pluck(habitual), medical, fungal, bacterial, frustration...etc..

Willow would snip pins badly enough to bleed and to this day pulls the odd one out with a tiny welp. So I'm convinced they feel it, did read something recently that suggested they struggle a little with cause and effect. I'm not so sure, think it's more a case they know their own mind.

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