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Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« on: September 19, 2016, 02:25:10 PM »

Hello, I own an African Gray who is about 10 years old.
Since two night ago I have noticed a very strange sound that he produces during pooping.
It resembles a long screeching sound and sometimes droppings dont even appear, although the body and tail are in precise position for pooping. When they do appear they are very slimey - much more moist then usual. Though the white and green parts are present, there is now a watery noncolored element to the poop.
I also noticed a little slimy vomiting. Which is not the same as when he offers food, when petted or over a towel.

Otherwise there is not a large behavior change, slightly more passvie thatn usual. But doesnt fluf and seems to eat the normal diet.
Prior to these symptoms it is worth mentioning these two events: my daughter and wife also had some short flu; and one of the nights last week I had forgoten the window open and the temperature dropped from 31 during the day to 15 celsius.

Please provide some advice how i can diagnose further and post my findings to an exprt to advise.
Unfortunately there are no suitable avian vets in my whole country and i must undertake this at home.




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Re: Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2016, 09:23:50 PM »

Hi and welcome,
Sorry your havin problems with your grey but seriously it sounds like you need a vet
I never understood how a animal is available in a country yet no vet to treat it when it's poorly :(
Is your bird DNA tested ? Could it be female and have a egg stuck (this really would need sorting or they can die )
Can you notice any swelling in the vent area ?
Hope you get your birdie sorted. Please keep us posted xx
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Re: Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2016, 05:48:49 AM »

Hi ,like Mandi says you need a vet asap, even a normal vet will be able to carry out tests or refer you to another vet who has an interest in birds .
Before we found our avian vet we used a poultry vet and he got our bird well again .
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Re: Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2016, 07:07:53 AM »

As has been said, you need to find a vet who has knowledge of birds. We are not vets and would never risk taking advice from people who don't know.

If your bird is ill, he will not recover without intervention from someone who knows. I'm sorry that seems harsh but this is the life of a creature and you must try to help.

Please let us know, where do you live?
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Re: Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2016, 10:50:30 AM »

I agree with all of your comments, good points made.
To update,  I managed to get some phone numbers and gather advice from more experienced owners, and a vet. And now after the 3rd day my bird seems much better on all symptoms - poop sound, poop appearance and behavior.

I am sharing here exactly what i gave him but definitely claim no responsibility only info as last resort:

  - Andol - quarter pill per two days, than i stopped.
  - Zhivimicin - this is some industrial poultry antibiotic + vitamines powder, i mixed a very tiny amount (fingers pinch) into the daily water and peanut butter. I plan to continue 3 more days. The vet recommended this because she suspected digestive problems.


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Re: Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2016, 12:58:42 PM »

Hi can I ask did the vet offer those medications i am know vet or claim to have any knowledge what so ever but I ask as Andol has another generic name of ACETAMINOPHEN which is pain relief and I would seriously consider the worth of any vet that suggested to me to give a finger pinch of medication how would you know if you've given to much or not enough, the other thing I would seriously question is why you'd be given an industrial poultry antibiotic for a parrot. If you can I would seriously get another opinion as I personally would not be happy with those instructions nor medication.

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Re: Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2016, 01:55:25 PM »

Tony I appreciate your line of thought but put in a situation where no other options are available (read OP) i trusted the experience of people who've seen this type of symptoms. And have also heard of others giving their parrots andol and zhivimicin - pretty much as standard catch all measure.
I figured if people have been poisoning their pets for decades we'd know by now.
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Re: Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2016, 02:18:52 PM »

I understand the position you're in, its clearly not an avian vet who has given you that information.

Be extremely careful about giving this sort of medication, it's not for birds, however as you are in a predicament and you are giving the smallest amount I guess it has helped.

When situations are desperate, sometimes desperate action needs taking. As i said its not something we would recommend, however we all have the luxury of access to an avian vet and I dare say would do the same in your situation.
Hope he remains ok and it might be an idea to read up on medical emergencies for the future. What country are you in?
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Re: Strange signs - no vet - Help needed!
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2016, 02:38:23 PM »

Hi, I am in Macedonia.
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