Topic: Tablet (Read 270 times)

Galaxy42 · « **on:** October 15, 2011, 01:52:35 PM »

Hi guys,

Any suggestions/tips on getting your bird to take tablets?
Get the feeling my fingers may be in danger!!

Thanks

**meant to be in health section- doh!

Rachel. · « **Reply #1 on:** October 15, 2011, 01:56:51 PM »

Oh dear- is he poorly?
Well I dont imagine it will be easy
My guess would be grind it and hide it in the middle of a grape or something, but how can u tell how much they have actually taken?
Did the vet not advise you

Xx

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karen 2 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 15, 2011, 01:57:09 PM »

Can you try crushing them up and put it inside half a grape

Mrs Piker · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2011, 02:14:45 PM »

I would suggest the same as above

Julie

Galaxy42 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 15, 2011, 02:22:52 PM »

They did advise me- they said that I could try soaking a pellet and putting it in there, but as we know pellets are wasted so there would be no true way of seeing how much was taken.
They also said I could try diluting it in orange juice or porridge or something.
Just wondered if anyone on here had anymore ideas.
Orbit is being tested for Psittocosis to rule it out.

Mrs Piker · « **Reply #5 on:** October 15, 2011, 02:25:18 PM »

Do you have a syringe, I sometimes mix meds in with a bit of OJ and feed it straight from the syringe

Julie

Bob · « **Reply #6 on:** October 15, 2011, 02:35:34 PM »

Sorry to hear of Orbit's problems, really hope the tests are negative

I would do the same as the others said, crush it in whatever his favourite softfood is.

Galaxy42 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 15, 2011, 03:04:42 PM »

Tried hiding abit of tablet in a grape- he ate around it and spat it out!
Tried mushing it into some pellets, mushed pellets are one side of the cage, Orbit is the other. Stubborn bird!!

lizduncan · « **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2011, 03:18:55 PM »

Does he drink fruit juices of herbal teas of any sort? If not maybe introduce them and see if he likes them then put the tablet in there.

Marie_kubiak · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2011, 03:46:29 PM »

It depends what medication it is, not all can be broken up or crushed. Some have coating designed to allow gradual release of drug over a long period so crushing affects duration of action, and some just taste foul when broken! The antibiotic most frequently used against psittacosis is one that tastes pretty nasty.
Saying that, there isn't a reliable way to feed parrots whole tablets- their natural feeding behaviour is to crumble/peel solid items and only eat small proportions so tablets are either discarded or only partly eaten.
I would check with your vet whether the medication you have can be crushed and if so then mix it with something sweet tasting liquid to hide any unpleasant flavour.
Marie

Mandi · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2011, 06:37:49 PM »

i crush peaches tablets in water and feed with shringe, she doesnt mind at all

john h · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2011, 08:39:43 PM »

hi
i don't know if i have missed one of your post sorry if i have . but i was wondering why your wanting to give orbit tablets and also why your vet would give you tablets . and not powders or liquids for your bird i see you are getting orbit tested for Psittacosis which would suggest to me that the vets not sure if orbit as anything wrong with it . so i wouldn't give any medicine till you have the results back .and if you do need to give medicine i would go back to your vets and ask for powder form or liquid form , i find it strange a vet giving a bird tablets do keep us posted...

Mandi · « **Reply #12 on:** October 15, 2011, 09:52:43 PM »

John most of peaches meds have been in tablet form but they did come with instructions on how to administer

Tezza · « **Reply #13 on:** October 15, 2011, 09:55:58 PM »

Nothing further for me to add to this I'm afraid, note what Maria has said, and then, if possible, mix with orange juice and try to feed with a syringe ( minus the neede of course!)

Tezza

john h · « **Reply #14 on:** October 16, 2011, 03:52:33 PM »

Quote from: Mandi on October 15, 2011, 09:52:43 PM

John most of peaches meds have been in tablet form but they did come with instructions on how to administer

hi mandi ..its i just find it strange giving tablet form when most avian medicines now come in powder or liquid form , as most vets know your usually going to have to crush them anyway to administer them. i might have missed his post but i cant find out what the illness is with galaxy42s grey i see he s still waiting for tests to come back . that's why i am wondering why he s giving tablets before there get the results unless i ve missed a posting somewere its only me been nosey

Marie_kubiak · « **Reply #15 on:** October 16, 2011, 07:13:38 PM »

Quote from: john h on October 16, 2011, 03:52:33 PM

hi mandi ..its i just find it strange giving tablet form when most avian medicines now come in powder or liquid form , as most vets know your usually going to have to crush them anyway to administer them. i might have missed his post but i cant find out what the illness is with galaxy42s grey i see he s still waiting for tests to come back . that's why i am wondering why he s giving tablets before there get the results unless i ve missed a posting somewere its only me been nosey

Hi John,
there are actually very very few drugs licensed for birds so the majority of prescribed treatments are actually cat/dog/human medications and most come in the form of tablets for these species. Most avian vets will compound tablets/capsules into a liquid but some aren't stable or suitable for this so drugs occasionally are dispensed as tablets to be given at home - typically then to be broken up immediately before dosing.
As ill birds can deteriorate very quickly then most will be started on medication based on a presumed diagnosis from available information (Xrays, in house blood tests, faecal examination etc etc) until specific confirmatory results are available from external lab tests. We often don't have the luxury of small animal vets of just waiting for results and not treating as they can deteriorate dramatically in the meantime or develop secondary problems.
Marie

john h · « **Reply #16 on:** October 16, 2011, 07:36:04 PM »

Quote from: Marie_kubiak on October 16, 2011, 07:13:38 PM

Quote from: john h on October 16, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
hi mandi ..its i just find it strange giving tablet form when most avian medicines now come in powder or liquid form , as most vets know your usually going to have to crush them anyway to administer them. i might have missed his post but i cant find out what the illness is with galaxy42s grey i see he s still waiting for tests to come back . that's why i am wondering why he s giving tablets before there get the results unless i ve missed a posting somewere its only me been nosey

Hi John,
there are actually very very few drugs licensed for birds so the majority of prescribed treatments are actually cat/dog/human medications and most come in the form of tablets for these species. Most avian vets will compound tablets/capsules into a liquid but some aren't stable or suitable for this so drugs occasionally are dispensed as tablets to be given at home - typically then to be broken up immediately before dosing.
As ill birds can deteriorate very quickly then most will be started on medication based on a presumed diagnosis from available information (Xrays, in house blood tests, faecal examination etc etc) until specific confirmatory results are available from external lab tests. We often don't have the luxury of small animal vets of just waiting for results and not treating as they can deteriorate dramatically in the meantime or develop secondary problems.
Marie

thank you maria
very informative . there is a lack of avian vets in england .but as parrots and all birds seem to be more popular in recent years more vets are now been trained to be avian vets
regards john

Marie_kubiak · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2011, 07:47:22 PM »

Sadly not - still no structured training for UK vet students in avian medicine. I used to teach final year students at a UK university but it is difficult to teach such a massive topic in a very limited amount of time, often to vets who have no interest. Hopefully the new Nottingham vet school is doing things a bit better but time will tell.
Training dedicated avian vets is also tricky - there's only a single residency training program in the UK, and so most avian vets have to teach themselves with support from attending conferences and reading up on current research. A lack of bird vets risks becoming a self-perpetuating problem with owners not having easy access to an avian vet so birds aren't taken to vets, so there is no demand for avian vets so fewer can survive financially! It's the same situation with all exotic species unfortuantely, there are few of us out there who can actually focus on what we really want to be doing.

glynn · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2011, 01:38:00 PM »

Quote from: Marie_kubiak on October 16, 2011, 07:47:22 PM

Sadly not - still no structured training for UK vet students in avian medicine. I used to teach final year students at a UK university but it is difficult to teach such a massive topic in a very limited amount of time, often to vets who have no interest. Hopefully the new Nottingham vet school is doing things a bit better but time will tell.
Training dedicated avian vets is also tricky - there's only a single residency training program in the UK, and so most avian vets have to teach themselves with support from attending conferences and reading up on current research. A lack of bird vets risks becoming a self-perpetuating problem with owners not having easy access to an avian vet so birds aren't taken to vets, so there is no demand for avian vets so fewer can survive financially! It's the same situation with all exotic species unfortuantely, there are few of us out there who can actually focus on what we really want to be doing.

That's sad to hear but explains why avian vets are so spread across the country, not like the most common dog and cats who you can pick and choose specific vets for. If only i could turn back the clock 18 years and study this

john h · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2011, 02:32:03 PM »

Quote from: Marie_kubiak on October 16, 2011, 07:47:22 PM

Sadly not - still no structured training for UK vet students in avian medicine. I used to teach final year students at a UK university but it is difficult to teach such a massive topic in a very limited amount of time, often to vets who have no interest. Hopefully the new Nottingham vet school is doing things a bit better but time will tell.
Training dedicated avian vets is also tricky - there's only a single residency training program in the UK, and so most avian vets have to teach themselves with support from attending conferences and reading up on current research. A lack of bird vets risks becoming a self-perpetuating problem with owners not having easy access to an avian vet so birds aren't taken to vets, so there is no demand for avian vets so fewer can survive financially! It's the same situation with all exotic species unfortuantely, there are few of us out there who can actually focus on what we really want to be doing.

that is sad to hear marie. i was reading a article in the parrots magazine last year someone was asking for avian vets in certain areas around britain, the lack of them was mentioned and i think it was alan k jones who said more students are now been trained to become avian vets , but if that's not the case then it is sad

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