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« on: January 17, 2016, 05:59:14 PM »

Hi guys. I was just wondering whether putting some branches of a pear tree would be safe for my CAG. Some sources online say that's it okay to do so however some say that it could be toxic. Any help would be much appreciated as I'm slightly confused


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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2016, 06:05:09 PM »

Let me go check the list x
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 06:07:46 PM »

I too am getting mixed views
On safe and unsafe list
Do you have any apple or willow ? Both are safe x
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 10:53:18 AM »

I can't see it actually on any unsafe list. Most references to possibly unsafe come from forums.

I looked at it from another angle, toxic seems pretty safe. Related to apple, found a wood worker list came up with nothing. Certainly for me final bit is it seems it's a traditional wood for kitchen implements notably wooden spoons.

If you have access to other types for sure err on the side of extreme caution. For me it certainly doesn't get to the dubious of oak, another one I found strange. As we give rowan berries which are extremely tannic, yet on some lists oak is ruled out. (tannin is a dietary inhibitor can't remember what for at mo)

Safe and Dangerous Woods http://www.birdsafe.com/woods.htm I always found this list quite grounded.
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 11:10:54 AM »

Brilliant list Stef, is there one you know of for plants? i'm always wary of buying plants for the house as the beaky ones are always so interested!
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 11:46:23 AM »

Plants I've stumbled across a few over the years I have to be honest I dumped a few in the beginning. I'll have a look I do know spider plants and orchids are. Both of mine have spent a little while trashing a spider plant Hickory deflowered an orchid.

I remember being shocked at peace lillies and seem to recall cheeseplant. Certainly gave them away.

I recall my biggest concern was the growing medium. As generally they're fortified for growing with nutrients. Then you have it's a bit of a bug growing medium. The problem is their predisposition to geophaging. I know I did consider covering with a bird freindly grit. Then eventually you'd be creating a fast draining growing medium.

I'll have a look see where I got spider plant and orchid from. The other concern is correct identification. I generally try to use Latin to make sure but not always easy from plants we buy.
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2016, 12:05:44 PM »

Thanks guys. Another thing should I wash the pear branches and then leave them to dry or can I put them straight in his cage?


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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2016, 12:09:36 PM »

Brilliant, thank you, i recently had a plant called a Blue Rain (Achemea) and the little conures just jumped on the leaves & chewed away, i had to move it out of the room. Luckily it can't have been poisonous as they were fine, but it's worrying.
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016, 12:55:43 PM »


Thanks guys. Another thing should I wash the pear branches and then leave them to dry or can I put them straight in his cage?


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If you can wash them and spray with f10 to make sure there's nothing harmful on them :)
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016, 02:07:36 PM »

Toxic and Safe Plants/Trees for Birds - Household Poisons http://www.plannedparrothood.com/plants.html always found this quite comprehensive. This seems pretty big not seen it before Safe Plants For Birds To Eat | San Antonio Veterinarian and Emergency Vet Services http://www.beckeranimalhospital.com/safe-plants-for-birds-to-eat/

I can't find the one I was thinking of had pics and Latin. I've always wished I could find a medium to satisfy there geophaging. Tbh I certainly wasn't majorly concerned but felt occasionally wouldn't hurt. Yet I'd be increasing the risk by doing it regularly, I stopped giving them the spider plants to prune.

Blue rain seems a yes, bromeliads Safe Plants for Birds http://www.multiscope.com/hotspot/safeplants.htm seem to recall having some but went just to be safe. Hey early parrothood we do tend to get wrapped up in it all.

What I tend to do is go the other way what could or is toxic and why? Then you can make an informed choice.

I remember making a completely stupid error do I regret it for sure. You'll find cooked broad beans on many lists Willow will testify and he loves his broad beans. Then you'll find it on unsafe lists well he's still here and would love to chase a bean out of the pod. It boils down to a combination of things a couple of components(which concentrate the dryer the bean) the same as kidney beans(on a side note I tried to confirm bird deaths caused by beans, didn't get any) and favism with inhibitors/binders. Just like oxalic acid in spinach it's about moderation(it only binds equal amounts of calcium, so give them more) and variety, too much of something good can be just as bad. On a final note yeah I did stop giving him raw broad beans. Yet I certainly would give him the occasional pod.

Think it's always just really about risk management. We'll all make different choices to achieve similar results. Sometimes in trying to give them the best and balancing with our lifestyles we will make errors.
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2016, 02:11:32 PM »

i'm sure you're right, apart from the obviously poisonous ones then its risk management and common sense, i remember once my cockatiel eating some chocolate from a biscuit, i panicked big time, phoned the vet and my tiel was absolutely fine, but it's not something i would ever let happen again.
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2016, 11:23:21 PM »

Thanks for that handy list. Now off to nick some branches from the neighbours apple tree!
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Re: Pear trees
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 06:38:38 AM »

Hi :)
If you put a search in at the top of the forum it will find you a thread on safe trees :) x


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