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African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« on: October 30, 2016, 03:52:11 PM »

 :cry2: Hello guys, Anybody bought an African Grey Baby and has died which wasn't fully weaned?? I bought an African Grey Baby home on 23/10/16 and sadly passed away overnight on 29/10/16. I believe it was because of the breeder MAYAT in Batley being careless with the birds. He has lied that the parrot was fully weaned and the age too. When I took her home she never had her seed diet or water independently. She had to be handfed when I gave her seeds she would have one or two and mostly just crack them and drop the seeds. She had to then be fed formula, fruit and veg that is what she would have. She never drunk water I had to make her drink water. She kept on making a noise as if she were getting breathless since I got her so thought all looked normal. Anyway she passed away which is very devavstating for my family including my little son I brought it for. MAYAT breeder in Batley only wants money he doesn't care about the welfare of these birds. The birds shouldn't be released to a new home until they eat and drink independently but this pr**k is just bothered about money. One day he will suffer the way the baby birds have and may have suffered due to his carelessness. I have reported him to the RSPCA and they are aware of this breeder but have told me they need solid evidence to enter his property with a warrant and to be prosecuted. Poor Coco RIP...... will be missed by us all.  :cry2:
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2016, 03:57:11 PM »

So sorry to be reading this
It is illegal to sell a unweaned baby bird :(
I'm not sure who else you can contact but they guy does need stopping if that's the case
Did you contact the breeder in the time you had coco ?
Some birds can revert back when they go to their new homes but the breeder should of been there for you xx


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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2016, 04:04:15 PM »

Hi Mandi,

When I found out she was unweaned I did what I could to feed Coco as long as she ate fruit/veg and formula I was ok with it. When I told the breeder he just wouldn't accept it this was because he is a bad breeder. And tmoro I will be in contact with his local council and see what they say as RSPCA asked me to do this. Very bad experience with an Indian breeder. Have had AG and Macaw babies before from other fine genuine breeders and all was fine.
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2016, 06:04:50 PM »

I'm so sorry, he needs stopping and prosecuting :(
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2016, 08:14:32 PM »

I'm so sorry, he needs stopping and prosecuting :(

Hello Kazky,

Thanks for your reply, indeed the Indian breeder Mayat needs stopping and prosecuted. I hope I can do something about this breeder in order to save other birds from dying and save the public from going to this thieving so called breeder.... will post it if and when I hear anything from the RSPCA and the council. Not leaving this matter at all. He has got more than 40 off different birds and I am certain to say many must be dying due to his carelessness.
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2016, 08:45:32 PM »

Please keep us updated, I really hope you can get him stopped
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2016, 10:40:19 AM »

:cry2: Hello guys, Anybody bought an African Grey Baby and has died which wasn't fully weaned?? I bought an African Grey Baby home on 23/10/16 and sadly passed away overnight on 29/10/16. I believe it was because of the breeder MAYAT in Batley being careless with the birds. He has lied that the parrot was fully weaned and the age too. When I took her home she never had her seed diet or water independently. She had to be handfed when I gave her seeds she would have one or two and mostly just crack them and drop the seeds. She had to then be fed formula, fruit and veg that is what she would have. She never drunk water I had to make her drink water. She kept on making a noise as if she were getting breathless since I got her so thought all looked normal. Anyway she passed away which is very devavstating for my family including my little son I brought it for. MAYAT breeder in Batley only wants money he doesn't care about the welfare of these birds. The birds shouldn't be released to a new home until they eat and drink independently but this pr**k is just bothered about money. One day he will suffer the way the baby birds have and may have suffered due to his carelessness. I have reported him to the RSPCA and they are aware of this breeder but have told me they need solid evidence to enter his property with a warrant and to be prosecuted. Poor Coco RIP...... will be missed by us all.  :cry2:

The same thing happened to me, i woke up yesterday and found my bird had died the early hours of wednesday morning. i am heartbroken and devastated. do you mind if i pm you?
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2016, 10:51:59 AM »

I'm so sorry, these rogue traders should be stopped, its heartbreaking for owners, but the suffering the poor babies go through is worse :(
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2016, 09:37:07 PM »

Very true these rogue traders need to be prosecuted so far I have been in touch with the Tradings standards who are of no use these days I am literally fed up calling them. I have spoken to the council and they say RSPCA should do something, they are all blaming one another as whom should be investigating this matter absolutely ridiculous organizations. This is the reason criminals are getting away with conning decent people. Importing bird eggs from Europe/ROW and weaning them at home is ILLEGAL. I think I have to see the Prime Minister about this matter as nobody seems concerned by the looks of it. :nono:

Zelbo I have pm'd you...
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2016, 09:58:20 PM »

Hi Zelbo,

Welcome to the forum, I am sorry to hear that, it is devastating. I don't mind you sending a pm at all. Please do so at your convenience.
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2016, 09:50:19 PM »

I'm really sorry this has happened to both of you and hope you get to the bottom of this with answers  :cry2:

I wonder if DEFRA could help you? Contact the parrot society too, they might know who to contact or who can help, once again i'm so sorry  :flowers:
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2016, 01:12:06 PM »

If the seller is prepared to do that, I'd be worried about the general health too of the bird you brought home and that of your other birds if they were exposed to the bird.

Some nasty diseases can be spread from birds obtained from shoddy breeders.  Not only are they a danger to other birds, but some of those diseases can be passed onto humans too. Psittacosis being the main one.  Not everyone will agree with me here and as difficult as it may have been to go through with it, I would have had some sort of postmortem done on the bird to just make sure it wasn't carrying any nasties.

After all the issues we've went through with our bird, I'm a firm believer in taking any new bird straight to an avian vet to get a once over.
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2016, 06:38:26 PM »

 This happened yo me with my little zingy, got told she was 4 months old, she was fine for 2 weeks ,then she couldn't put her foot down. Took her to the vets and they X-ray her and say she was ok . My baby couldn't stand,she died that night. Was heart broken. Had to send her to gran canaria for necropsy. Results came back she had something wrong in stomach. When I questioned it they said if you eat a curry you might be ok ,but if I eat a curry I could get dodgy tummy.
She was  12 weeks old in autopsy ,   I had her for 2 weeks ,
So my 4 month old baby was only 10'weeks old when they sold her to me


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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2016, 08:52:38 PM »

Thanks for the above replies, Truly nobody has helped it's been an absolute joke all the way. RSPCA has heard of the breeder but just won't take action. They asked me to call the Batley area council which are based in Kirklees. Calling the council only been told RSPCA should be taking action so basically blaming one another on whom should be taking action. It is absolutely pathetic they have no concern for animal welfare it means nothing to them blimey.... I have been in touch with the Trading standards too for weeks and never heard from them they are not bothered either no organizations are willing to do anything about it. What is the point in being there if they are of no help. MAYAT is a SCAM Indian parrot egg importer I have found out and he is not a genuine breeder. He is one of the hundreds in the U.K. who import bird eggs and then weaning them at home, then selling them under age and unweaned this is why they happen to pass away as they have not been bred fully and not looked after.
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2016, 08:55:52 PM »

This happened yo me with my little zingy, got told she was 4 months old, she was fine for 2 weeks ,then she couldn't put her foot down. Took her to the vets and they X-ray her and say she was ok . My baby couldn't stand,she died that night. Was heart broken. Had to send her to gran canaria for necropsy. Results came back she had something wrong in stomach. When I questioned it they said if you eat a curry you might be ok ,but if I eat a curry I could get dodgy tummy.
She was  12 weeks old in autopsy ,   I had her for 2 weeks ,
So my 4 month old baby was only 10'weeks old when they sold her to me


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Hello Sunny2014,

May I ask where you brought your A Grey from, possibly an import and what time of the year??
Sorry to hear for your loss...
No organisation are willing to help and then they talk about welfare for animals...
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2017, 01:42:18 PM »

Maybe I'm being too harsh on the RSPCA here (or SPCA as it's called here in Scotland), but any time I've had dealings with them and there have been a number of them over the years, they only tend to act if it involves a cat or dog.

I remember calling them about a sun conure that had obviously escaped from someones house or aviary and was being chased by crows.  Got told they weren't going to send anyone as it would more than likely be dead before they arrived, so it would have been a wasted exercise. Luckily someone else managed to catch it.  Had that been a dog or cat being attacked by other cats or dogs, they'd have been straight out.  Seems some animals are worth the effort and some aren't.
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2017, 01:49:36 PM »

honestly the RSPCA have long outlived their reputation.

I would never hand over any animal to them. Specifically with birds, the do nothing to locate owners, they class found birds as 'strays'. They hold them for 7 days and then rehome to an aviary environment only! Can you imagine how a companion bird would handle that? Shocking. Unless an owner has ultimate proof the bird is theirs they will not hand it over.

From what i've heard they are not but better with cats & dogs too.
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2017, 11:21:17 PM »

BlackJAC and Kazky you are right in if it comes to dogs and cats they will go rushing out to save them. They don't give a damn about the birds but they come in the animals category too. They shouldn't even exist it's absolutely pointless from what are really there for. It's good somebody managed to save the conure. And yes sad if they were to keep the birds not bothered to find the owner and give them away to a home who may be interested. For dogs and cats they'll do anything it's just a big shame......  :nono:
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Re: African Grey Baby, Heartbroken😪
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2017, 01:56:49 PM »

This happened yo me with my little zingy, got told she was 4 months old, she was fine for 2 weeks ,then she couldn't put her foot down. Took her to the vets and they X-ray her and say she was ok . My baby couldn't stand,she died that night. Was heart broken. Had to send her to gran canaria for necropsy. Results came back she had something wrong in stomach. When I questioned it they said if you eat a curry you might be ok ,but if I eat a curry I could get dodgy tummy.
She was  12 weeks old in autopsy ,   I had her for 2 weeks ,
So my 4 month old baby was only 10'weeks old when they sold her to me


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Hello Sunny2014,

May I ask where you brought your A Grey from, possibly an import and what time of the year??
Sorry to hear for your loss...
No organisation are willing to help and then they talk about welfare for animals...


I live in Lanzarote and got ziggy here . I bought her in the November I think it was .
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