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Congo v Timneh
« on: July 09, 2009, 02:27:27 PM »

 



There hasnt been that many studies due to the fact that congo's are the most popular, this is because they were originally more accessable in the wild, hence the fact that more studies involved the congo.
Apart from the obvious physical differences ie, darker plummage, maroon tail, lighter beak. Timnehs are claimed to be more laid back and less prone to plucking, this theory was dismissed by many because of the fact that far less cases would be reported, and more reported cases of congos plucking, purely because congos far out numbered Timnehs in captivity. A recent study may have put some factual evidence into this theory, and heres why:
The study focused on congo and timnehs in the wild and revealed that the timneh reached maturity approx 6 months earlier that the congo, this in turn meant that the timneh becomes far more independant of its flock much earlier than the congo. Hence, it can learn to speak or vocalise quicker and has a general higher sense of independence much quicker than the congo. With independence comes security and a sense of well being etc etc.
Now, here's a very interesting fact, they also captured equal amounts of adult congo's and grey's from the wild, they put them in small cages fed them exactly the same diet, treated them exactly the same, none of these birds got into any plucking habits, weird isnt it?
This meant that it was the breeding and weaning of the young in captivity that causes plucking or behavioural problems?
This coupled with the evidence that timnehs mature and become independant earlier leads to the conclusion that Timnehs can abapt to captive breeding and weaning much easier than the Congo, lets say they are more suitable candidates. More studies need to be done and more are underway as we speak no doubt.
With these behavioural difference i suppose we can also conclude thet they tame easier? Maybe?
They also may have a higher vocabulary and be easier to train?

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 09:58:00 AM »

I never knew all that Debs  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: thats a great article
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 10:07:25 AM »

Its Squidy that did all the reading up and writing it, i just copied it and put it up as a sticky!  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2009, 03:28:00 PM »

Someone told me recently that there has been a wild-life documentary  on TV recently in which it was claimed that AGs feather pluck even in the wild. I didn't see the programme; did anyone  here? Somehow it doesn't seem right to me. I just can't imagine these birds mutilating themselves in nature.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2009, 11:23:21 PM »

Hiya Duchess, no, i would doubt it very much, and if i saw it, i would think there was human intervention somewhere along the line.
I have studied this quite a bit, and i do believe that its the first human contact: ie the breeder that has a big influence on later years, it can of course, correspond with the new owner having the same beliefs or husbandary. Get a different owner with different beliefs and you produce a new pet, so to speak......
Very debatable, but one worth the debate xxx
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2009, 11:29:36 PM »

Yes, our beloved Squid, (this is Duchess speaking  :yahoo:), I suspect that the wild birds who pluck are the ones who have either had their partners poached for the Western market, or have been traumatised by the invasion of TV crews.

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2009, 11:52:41 PM »

 You look like a Duchess, you sound like a Duchess, and you live like a Duchess, that makes you a Duchess in my book xxx
Yes, its sad but true, have read many articles, and all smothered with the same perpective, an insite into nature may feed the few, but destroy the thousands.........i dont agree with the inquisitive when it becomes the intruative x
i think you feel the same, your babies ar all so very gorgeous, you have a true incite into nature as so many animal lovers do xxx Your a wonderful Mummy to so many xxxx
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 11:56:11 PM »

I do my best, our Squid -  as I'm sure you do too.   :superbat: :fruitloop:

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2009, 12:05:56 AM »

 :cheekkiss: Duchess  :rose: yeah, we all do our best and you are certainly one of the best  :cheekkiss:
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2009, 12:18:36 AM »

Aw shucks, our Squid! Have a tinnie on me.  :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2009, 12:51:40 AM »

 :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: you dont have to say that twice  :cheekywink:
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2009, 01:09:57 PM »

That is a good article :)
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2009, 02:41:05 PM »

Thank you Kay  :thumbsup: gld you enjoyed reading, its only my views from what i have read, its worth thinking about isnt it?
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2009, 02:45:28 PM »

It was a very good article indeed!  :clap:

Are Timnehs and Congos the same species? By which I mean are they able to interbreed, do you know?

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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2009, 02:53:00 PM »

Why do they call you Duchess Julie are you a posh bird lol ;)
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2009, 03:13:19 PM »

Thank you Duchess, yes they can interbreed and do produce a hybrid, not very popular tho and generally a bit cheaper than a pure bred. I have read about it but never encountered one?
Kay, yes a posh bird as you put it  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: but more importantly, Duchess has some very large, very protective, hungry looking doggies  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ohhh and a very influential hubby  :paper: :paper: :paper:  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2009, 03:25:49 PM »

Now i remember why your crawling!!!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2009, 03:43:04 PM »

 :paper: :paper: :paper: :paper: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:  :ontome: :ontome: :ontome:
plus after looking at the photos, i now consider myself a bag lady  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2009, 03:53:21 PM »

You must have a big bag, you fetch all the tinnies and cuys.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2009, 05:22:32 PM »

She's only being nice because she's after my parrot cage!  :nono: :baseballbat: :lol:

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