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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2009, 05:43:39 PM »

Duchess, yes, i have to admit i have a definate soft spot for your Jeremys cage  :cheekywink: :cheekywink: :cheekywink:
ahh but, thats besides the point, your still a Duchess and i am a bag lady  :rofl: :rofl: put it this way, your in "Horse and Hounds" and i'm in "the big issue"  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2009, 06:03:33 PM »

This bird is a congo x timneh isn't she fab lol had me in stitches :)
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2009, 06:34:01 PM »

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: i like the roller coaster and so does Echo!!!!!!!
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2009, 07:07:27 PM »

That's fantastic! But she looks *exactly* like a CAG to me.  :wiggle:

Cheers,
Julie  :pecking:
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2009, 07:09:08 PM »

Duchess, yes, i have to admit i have a definate soft spot for your Jeremys cage  :cheekywink: :cheekywink: :cheekywink:
ahh but, thats besides the point, your still a Duchess and i am a bag lady  :rofl: :rofl: put it this way, your in "Horse and Hounds" and i'm in "the big issue"  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You mean your matching hand-luggage is two Tesco carrier bags?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Cheers,
The Duchess  :fruitloop:
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2009, 07:20:52 PM »

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: yes, i do for the the red white and blue look, and if i really push the boat out i can get the new light blue ones for frozen items, they make a nice contrast  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2010, 02:35:32 PM »

Hi all,
 Sorry i havent been on ere for ages......i own both a Timneh and a Congo Grey.......

The Congo grey is my second Congo and like the other one he is very outgoing and confident with pretty much everything. Both my congos were handreared and i was their 2nd owner from leaving the breeder.

  My Timneh grey is very nervous and gets upset easily. He is older than my Congo, he is 5 on xmas eve ( bless )  and my Congo is just 1yr. I am his 3rd owner from the breeder...he was also handreared. . He is a plucker and i wonder if thats a breeding thing as well as his nervous disposition. he lets it all grow back and looks fab for a few weeks....then pulls it all out again or rather snips the feathers off.  He is the sweeter bird out of the two though going to anyone for a tickle and doesnt bite whereas my othe grey and the one before would bite if a stranger touched them

He also is very very smart.....he doesnt like talking much in front of people but will pick a word or sound up in a couple of days...He understands alot of what i say and you can see from the way he listens to you when they talk that hes just taking it all in.

I would say he is smarter than my Congo who is still not talking yet allthough has picked up both of the other birds various sounds that they make.......and the annoying shrill ones....lol, though they say Congos take longer to speak my last Congo was talking well by 1yr but i think he was an exception .

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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2011, 04:16:17 AM »

Actually, Cags do tend to be more popular then tinnehs. They also tend to be superior birds in personality, as well tinnehs. Tend to be more aggressive. Better "sense of self".  Nancy
 



There hasnt been that many studies due to the fact that congo's are the most popular, this is because they were originally more accessable in the wild, hence the fact that more studies involved the congo.
Apart from the obvious physical differences ie, darker plummage, maroon tail, lighter beak. Timnehs are claimed to be more laid back and less prone to plucking, this theory was dismissed by many because of the fact that far less cases would be reported, and more reported cases of congos plucking, purely because congos far out numbered Timnehs in captivity. A recent study may have put some factual evidence into this theory, and heres why:
The study focused on congo and timnehs in the wild and revealed that the timneh reached maturity approx 6 months earlier that the congo, this in turn meant that the timneh becomes far more independant of its flock much earlier than the congo. Hence, it can learn to speak or vocalise quicker and has a general higher sense of independence much quicker than the congo. With independence comes security and a sense of well being etc etc.
Now, here's a very interesting fact, they also captured equal amounts of adult congo's and grey's from the wild, they put them in small cages fed them exactly the same diet, treated them exactly the same, none of these birds got into any plucking habits, weird isnt it?
This meant that it was th
This coupled with the evidence that timnehs mature and become independant earlier leads to the conclusion that Timnehs can abapt to captive breeding and weaning much easier than the Congo, lets say they are more suitable candidates. More studies need
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2011, 07:43:17 AM »

  My breeder only breed CAGs because she was under the impression that TAGs didn't make good pets. We certainly have a lot more CAGs than TAGs on here
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »

 :nono: So.... after reading this... and being a handsome Congo myself, does this mean I should not have been talking early and should be plucking myself stupid!!!! Probably spoke early just cause my family were constantly talking to me, mum anyway!!!!  :blah: As for plucking I am far tooooooooo busy!!!!
I think I was chosen purely because they visited the breeder several times to see me and my brothers and sisters before placing a deposit down, then they visited me until I was big enough to come home with them  :yahoo:
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2011, 06:28:18 PM »

Whilst reading in readiness for been an owner, I came acroos an interesting theory regarding TAGs and CAGs.

Apparently TAGs leave their parents much earlier than CAGs which coincides with when they would leave the breeder. CAGs however dont leave until much later (1-2yrs of age). Their theory was that in studies CAGS often change their preference to their caregiver wheras TAGs dont and this is why they believe this happen.

I would question whether they studied equal ammounts of both species to come to that conclusion but interesting all the same
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2011, 09:53:02 AM »

Having both I don't know whether it's their personalities or just the way they are but Fred is far more chilled than Riddle and nowhere near as fearful of new things.
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2011, 08:39:17 PM »

I have a timneh called Rocco and hes very very friendly and super smart! Hes just started to become wary of new people but myself and my OH have had no issues with him preferring one or the other of us.

He does say a few things but not loads...not sure if this is just his age ( hes just over a year) or just him? He has a huge range of whistles and noises though!

I also like the fact they are quite small. I find him very easy to handle. I do sometimes wish I had bitten the bullet and gone for CAG but lots of articles hinted that Timnehs were abit more easy going and being a first time parrot owner I didnt want to bite off more than I could chew. I also think CAGs are abit prettier but I wouldnt change Rocco for the world!!!

Love the funny lil dude  :laugh:

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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2011, 09:00:59 AM »

Billy is far more chilled than Bella, but that's just his age i think. Ive never had a CAG so I couldnt compare. Billy is a little chatter with quite a few words under his belt and bells says nothing  :biggrin:
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2011, 09:08:00 AM »

Digby is quite chilled in comparison to a CAG from what I hear. He is not afraid of new toys much or not for long, he is happy to attack any creature big or small and not even scared  :rofl: :rofl: He is not very nice to anyone but me though  :panic: And I think he is gorgeous, not any less gorgeous than CAG  :biggrin: I wouldn't say that TAG is easier than a CAG, each parrot, including a budgie, are all equally complicated and require just as much effort and care.
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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2011, 02:57:57 PM »

Thank you Duchess, yes they can interbreed and do produce a hybrid, not very popular tho and generally a bit cheaper than a pure bred. I have read about it but never encountered one?
Kay, yes a posh bird as you put it  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: but more importantly, Duchess has some very large, very protective, hungry looking doggies  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ohhh and a very influential hubby  :paper: :paper: :paper:  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Hi Squid,
Sorry but have to disagree here.  A species is defined as a group of animals who, in the wild  breed amongst themselves to produce fertile offspring.  To date (and despite some claims on some internet sites) no one has ever *proved* that Timnehs and Af greys can or have ever, interbred to produce any fertile young. 

Last year, and following extensive research these two birds were re-classified by the IUCN and BirdLife International as seperate species.  So the African/Congo grey's scientific name remains Psittacus e. erithacus, but the Timneh is a  full species on its own Its scientific name is Psittacus t. timneh.   

I do actually now see quite a lot of differences between these two birds.  T greys are much less nervous that Af greys. 

Debbie, could you give a reference for the paper you mentioned; can we read it online somewhere? 

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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2011, 03:39:11 PM »

Greg, thank you for your reply, very interesting! I don't think Debbie comes to the forum anymore as she posted about it quite a while ago, sorry.
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Re: Congo v Timneh
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2011, 07:05:58 PM »

Hi,

They are intelligent creatures and as such have different personalities. I have both and they are a bonded pair. My Timneh is (was?) a plucker, he is the most intelligent one and good at problem solving. He is the talker, my CAG half says one word "alright". My TAG is the one who plays with toys, always on the go, extremely active, My CAG is the one who is laid back, content just to sit and watch, she is also extremely musical, she actually composes original real tunes to whistle all in perfect key and pitch and make "musical sense".

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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2011, 08:42:22 PM »

It must be nice having one of each.  I have 3 Congo's and the are all completely different x
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