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Taking An African Grey On Holiday
« on: March 20, 2010, 09:19:47 PM »

I was asked this question - what are the restrictions on taking an african grey on holiday to europe [eu only]??

Anyone know the answer?

Thanks  :thumbsup:
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Re: Taking an african grey on holiday?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 10:55:41 PM »

Happy Holidays  :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: you can go anywhere in the EU once you have a passport  :cheekywink: :cheekywink: :cheekywink:

Squid, I'm afraid it isn't as simple as that. Ireland for one does not allow you to take a bird in unless it goes into quarantine first for 35 days. You need to check with each country's embassy first.

Here is some of the e-mail correspondence I had when checking up on it last year. Hope this helps

From: AHIT Chelmsford (AH) [mailto:AHITChelmsford@animalhealth.gsi.gov.uk]
Sent: 26 August 2009 14:46
Subject: RE: Holidaying with a pet parrot

Dear Andy,

Thank you for your email of 24 August 2009 regarding the import/export of your pet parrot.

The import requirements for pet birds are set out in Importer Information Note (IIN) A/11, as found through the link below;
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/int-trde/imports/iins/birds/a11.htm
 
This states that up to five pet birds may be imported per person from other EU Member States, without any additional requirements or restrictions, provided they are accompanied on their journey to the UK. No certification or declaration is required unless there are additional restrictions in place due to a disease outbreak.

Regrettably we are unable to advise on exports. For information on this matter you will need to contact the central operations unit for exports, their contact details can be found through the link below;

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalhealth/about-us/contact-us/centrops.htm

Please read all the information carefully and ensure that your import can fully satisfy all the appropriate conditions and requirements.

Please note this information only cover the Animal Health requirements. You should also contact the CITES (the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species) regarding their requirements for this import;

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalhealth/about-us/contact-us/wildlife.htm

I hope this has answered all your questions,

Kind regards

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Dear Angela

Thank you for your quick response. If I am reading these notes correctly, it means that a short holiday is not possible to Ireland as the bird will need to be quarantined for 35 days in Ireland, however this quarantine period is not required in France and so a short holiday is possible. Is that correct?

Kind regards

Andy
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From: Carlisle, Live Animal Exports (AH) [mailto:LiveAnimalExports.Carlisle@animalhealth.gsi.gov.uk]
Sent: 27 August 2009 09:29
Subject: RE: Holidaying with a pet parrot

Good morning Andy,

To take your pet parrot to Ireland and France you would require a health certificate.  You can apply for a health certificate using the attached application form.  I have for your information attached a specimen certificate and notes for guidance for both Ireland and France.

It is also advisable to contact the relevant embassies to check their import requirements.  Regarding bringing your pet parrot back into the UK you will need to contact our office in Chelmsford who can advise on bringing your parrot back into the UK.  Their number is 01245 358383.

Kind regards, Angela.

Animal Health
Hadrian House
Wavell Drive
Rosehill Industrial Estate
Carlisle
CA1 2TB
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Re: Taking An African Grey On Holiday
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2010, 09:55:44 PM »

i did look into this a while back as i take mine camping most years in the uk and fancy going to france to camp.   As far  i am aware....once your bird has had the correct checks you can take it with you BUT......to bring it home again is the problem.....they have to go into quarrentine.......

Does anyone else know the deal with this ?
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Re: Taking An African Grey On Holiday
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 06:11:15 PM »

Jackie

I am not sure that is an issue. When I first looked at this a few years  back there was a requirement for quarantine but that could be done in the home, with vet examinations after 48 hours and 35 (I think) days.

This has been relaxed now - Per the Defra website: -

"5 pet birds or fewer moved into the UK do not need to be accompanied by a licence, serve home quarantine upon arrival or have any inspection visits by a Local Veterinary Inspector"

http://www.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/animaltrade/imports/iins/birds/a11.htm

The rules seem to change fairly regularly so it is best always checking before you travel. You should always check the rules in the countries you are going to - both for import and export before you travel there. Do not assume that they are the same as the UK. You should be able to do this by contacting the relevant embassies.

Also, you need to bear in mind that should there be a bird flu outbreak when you are overseas, rules may chnage very rapidly to cope with such a situation and repatriating a pet bird may not be as straight forward then.
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Re: Taking An African Grey On Holiday
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2010, 05:33:38 PM »

i want to know the exact same thing as when we go to our place in benidorm we wud love to take coco with us ...she would love the sun...!!!!!!....and all the trees that r there to sit in..( harness on of course..!!)
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Re: Taking An African Grey On Holiday
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2010, 10:46:29 PM »

thanks for that very interesting info andy.........hmmm now i am interested in finding out if anyone else does take their birdy away with them without any problems  :thumbsup:
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Re: Taking An African Grey On Holiday
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2010, 11:30:13 AM »

Jackie

Other considerations are:

1. they cannot fly in the cabin of an aircraft so would have to go in the hold - likely to be very stressful, plus they are out of your control.

2. when I last inquired they could not travel by Eurotunnel (No idea why not). This may have changed since I made enquires so do not take this as a currect fact, but worth checking up on first.

3. Again when I last enquired ferries required them to be left in the vehicle during the crossing. You will not be able to get access to the vehicle during the crossing.

4. Eurotunnel or ferry, you are likely to be in an enclosed area on the train / boat prior to disembarking with car engines and therefore exhaust fumes heavy in the air. It would be worth while trying to ensure that you book if possible a first off space and remember to close the air vents and switch to recycle internal air only in  your vehicle before you get on the ferry / train.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 09:52:17 PM »

 Thanks for that Andy, yes i had,nt thought bout that side of it. i would prob use the tunnel but would def not go if i was to be separated from my fids, or they had to be left in the car.
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Re: Taking An African Grey On Holiday
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 06:09:58 PM »

Hello,
I am taking Timmy with us to the Czech Republic all the time. We go through Euro-tunnel where he sits in his birdie backpack and he is absolutely fine. We don't need anything when we come into the country (only for our dog who goes with us too. He loves the journey and chats with us most of the time. Never had any problems so far.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 09:55:50 AM »

Hmmm very interesting subject...kind of confusing though :crazy: ...I wonder if they would just allow a travel cage in the aircraft...would be pretty cruel to put them in the overhead cabin...I think Missie would actually die of stress if I was to put her in an overhead cabin on a plane...she really couldn't handle a situation like that...wonder how Karen got Pablo to Spain? Xxx
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012, 12:13:05 PM »

i bought pablo over here in lanzarote , but if i have to move back to the uk there are pet carrier transport companies that do everything for you. Or i could bring them in the airplane but they have to go in the hold, but they only fly into big british airports so i would have to take them by car back to scotland. i would be able to take them on a ferry and then drive the rest of the way but it would take 4 days, but as someone said on the ferry pets have to stay in the car , well i wouldnt take them on the ferry as when we went on it ,the fumes were so bad where you leave your car they were choking us never mind a bird.

Crazy but if i wanted to take them from here to gran canaria or tenerife i could have them sittin beside me on the plane in a carrier.

Taking them back to the uk they have to have blood tests done 6 months before you go and then re checked just before you go.xx
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 07:36:51 PM »

Hiya Karen...

Ahh I didn't know that...thought you had taken him over from Scotland with you...funny how if you went to gran canaria they could stay sitting next to you but not to the uk...strange world we live in haha...how are they both anyway has Lola still been braving it to go and sit with Pablo on his cage? Xxx
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012, 11:42:21 PM »

Lola is a little horror with me this past week , walked past the cage tonight and she lunged at me ,   Blooming another daddies girl.   


Christmas dinner I think.  LOL xxx
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2012, 07:39:34 AM »

Hope you don't have company for crimbo lunch Karen as she won't go far :rofl:
Echo will choose Karl or a man over me or any other female but she is still happy to go to anyone :cheekkiss:
And she hasn't always been that way so there's hope for you and Lola x
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2012, 09:10:38 AM »

Aww has she the little madam :baseballbat: HaHa aww poor lola...tell her shes gonna be christmas dinner if she carry's on hehe....She will soon love you haha! 

Aww did Echo used to be a mummys girl Mandi? xxx

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2012, 09:14:43 AM »

Ayesha , echo came likin only Karl and will now go to anyone :cheekkiss:
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2012, 09:18:16 AM »

Aww did she... that's good now she will go to everybody...I wish Missie would...She only really likes me and Paul...My mum loves her but cant have a stroke because Missie must like her blood hehe  :rofl: xxx
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2012, 09:32:17 AM »

Ayesha they don't come like that often
Iv said I'm gonna start not letting strangers meet her as it gives a false impression and you often get the "I want one " :grumble:
Ill let them meet Dave instead :rofl:
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2012, 09:41:58 AM »

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:    i say to lola,    africa is that way and point to the sea.  she is such a little monkey she will say kiss for mum, kiss kiss and put her head down for a tickle then turn round and bite me . That reminds me have to go to the shop for stuffing  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:.  Oh well it only took me 6 years to change pablo so as you say there is hope for me yet. xx
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2012, 10:16:00 AM »

Ayesha they don't come like that often
Iv said I'm gonna start not letting strangers meet her as it gives a false impression and you often get the "I want one " :grumble:
Ill let them meet Dave instead :rofl:


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Yes choose Dave to bring out to meet people...sure that will put them off the "I want one"....maybe even put them off coming to your house again haha!!!

Forgot to say...The only other person Missie will really tolerate is my 3 year old niece (when shes not being too loud and hypo)  Mia says "Can Missie sit on my knee Auntie Ayesh?" so I put a tea towel on her legs when shes sitting down on the couch (so Missies nails dont scratch her knee) then I sit missie on her knee and she just sits there gazing up at Mia  :biggrin:  Then if I hold Mia's hand I use her hand so she can stroke her...just incase she decides to spin her head round and go for her tiny fingers  :rofl: :rofl: but she is good with her, its like she knows Mia is only a baby really xx

HaHa poor lola...I hope she loves you quickly for her sake  :haha: :rofl: :rofl:....Pablo's on to it....He knows where his bread is buttered  :rofl: xx


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