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Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« on: August 27, 2015, 12:25:49 AM »

1- Hello everyone,

Just registered to post about a scam regarding African greys and how someone almost duped into it! Here it goes:

I was looking for African greys for sale (like everyone else!) and came across this Advert:
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 12:35:14 AM »

2- Obviously, the price seemed very juicy.... and I am new to African greys and how they're bred, bought, sold etc, so sent the scammer a message that if he could provide us with more info etc and got the following reply with pictures:

""""
Hello,
thanks for contacting my advert regarding the kittens (Grey birds ).
i have two kittens available for adoption, male and female
respectively (Della and Jerry ).
they are 1 year 2 weeks old .
the kittens are ; home trained, curious, very affectionate, tranquil,
and friendly with children and household pets.
the kittens have the following details;
- registration Papers,
- health record UTD with shots
- 2 years genetic guarantee,
- 1 generation pedigree,
- Info training packet,
- microchiped and health certificated (vet checked).
- first dose of revolution kills fleas/ticks prevents Heart worms,
- You have nothing to worry about Feeding, because i will also
enclose their hand book and feeding menu to their package ok,
i would like to know ;

- where are you located ?
- will you like to take the male or female or both ?
- does your house favors animals ?
- can you tell me more about yourself ?
- no you have a phone number, i can call or text?

It will cost you 250 , but for both 500
Pending a response from you .
Call me now 07031906879 07031906879 07031906879

Regards
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 12:43:52 AM »

3- After seeing the pics and how much love the birds were getting... got very excited.... told the wife... told the mum... told friends.... we've finally found the right birds for us, not one but two.... but.... then... commonsense prevailed.... remembered something I read on this forum.... so decided to do some investigation....

a) checked his number on google.... and found that this number has been used in a scam...
b) took a closer look at the photos and realized there was a little watermark with a website name written on it... so tried searching google for the images and found that those images had been used on various bird loving forums... and this person had put up ads on preloved, gumtree and other international websites.... he was at the same time scamming people in the US, Canada and UK!!!! In some countries he was selling dogs.... in some birds!!!!!

So, I said to him that I want to come and personally check the birds and save him the hassle of "shipping them" and got the following 2 replies:

""""""""""""""""" Hello,
I relocated to isle of man because i got a new job there , and
that is the mean reason why i want to re homed the birds for
i am pretty busy that i will not have enough time take good care for the birds
It was nice reading from you once more,well as regard to
your answer to my question, i am very happy and comfortable to let you
take one of my birds .I am glad giving you my birds but i will like
you to promise me that you and your family will give the birds lot of
love and care which is my greatest desire i need from you right now
okay.Now i have all your delivery details i will then fax it to my
lawyer for him to make the change of ownership document before i take
the birds at the delivery company for the delivery arrangement but i
will do appreciate you get back to me with your details in this form?

NAMES IN FULL

HOME ADDRESS

CITY/TOWN

POST CODE

MOBILE NUMBER

LAND LINE NUMBER

As soon as i have all this information like this i will then fax it
directly to my lawyer for the change of document and when that is done
i will then take your details along the birds at the delivery
company today for the delivery arrangement and when through
the delivery company will contact you to let you know the departure
and the arrival time of your birds at your doorstep and also how you
will be making the 250including delivery fee to them okay.thanks and
hope to hear from you soon. the female name is Della and the male name is Teddy
you can call me now ....07031906879.......07031906879
""""""""""""""""
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2015, 12:46:26 AM »

4 - I was persistent.... that I cannot buy a bird that I have not seen/met... he was still making excuses and even reduced the price for the pair:

"""""""""""
hello thanks for getting back to me , we can only do shipping since i
am far off you , and i am happi if you want to take the both , i will
like to give it for you for 400 instead of 500 , so please do have a
rethink and get back to me with your full home address
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 12:50:01 AM »

5 - So... my last communication to him was as follows:

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Hi again,

Sorry for the late reply. I am sorry, we cannot buy something we cannot see... especially when the photographs you sent were stolen from other websites, your telephone number blacklisted on forums and your ads placed all over in the World (USA, Canada etc). I mean, how can you be in three different places? Your telephone number and email address has been reported to Surrey police and birdtrader and other bird forums.

Thanks for taking the time out to email us!

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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2015, 12:54:02 AM »

6 - I emailed birdtrader... and they took the ad down... but this guy can easily make 20 other profiles on 20 other sites and try to dupe some bird lover into handing him their hard-earned cash... soooo... please spread the word and thanks for taking the time out n reading all this!!

P.S> any advice would be welcome... regarding anything further that I can do to report this guy.... etc AND... still need the African greys... sadly :( Just contacted Nikki Humphries for one.... if she accepts... hopefully!

"""""""""""
Hello there, Would like to report a scam. This ad was advertised on your website till yesterday. I contacted the buyer and he sent me all these photographs and details. I was a bit suspicious after his second email... and searched for his telephone number, name and pictures on google. It turns out that this same person is selling two "lovely adorable" parrots in Canada, NewYork US and many other places and these pictures have been stolen/copied from this website http://www.parrot-bird.com/grey-parrot-pictures.html
This is the ad reference from your website: Ad ref YI529F10H
Please advice further on what to do... I haven't told him that I am aware that this is a fraud....

Many thanks,
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2015, 05:38:21 AM »

These scum bags are the pit of the earth and wind me up something terrible, nothing more than scum.  :baseballbat:  :baseballbat:

mind at least you pushed him and didn't fall for the scam.



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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2015, 05:47:31 AM »

Hi and welcome
As soon as I had 'shots' I knew it was a scam
African greys don't need 'shots'
Hope you find your forever feathered friend soon x x
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2015, 01:29:50 AM »

These scum bags are the pit of the earth and wind me up something terrible, nothing more than scum.  :baseballbat:  :baseballbat:

mind at least you pushed him and didn't fall for the scam.



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I wish their was something that could be done about these scammers. I was very lucky, thanks to forums like these :)
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2015, 01:33:38 AM »

Hi and welcome
As soon as I had 'shots' I knew it was a scam
African greys don't need 'shots'
Hope you find your forever feathered friend soon x x

Well, for a newbie like me, shots wasn't really the giveaway... but the lawyer bit did ring some bells... I was like why does he need a lawyer, though the pictures seemed very very convincing! Seems, these scammers play tricks on our minds using our love for birds.

I sure hope we can find one as an addition to our family! :) * can't wait!! * :crossed
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2015, 01:35:10 AM »

Hi and welcome
As soon as I had 'shots' I knew it was a scam
African greys don't need 'shots'
Hope you find your forever feathered friend soon x x

By the way... looking at the picture, you have an amazing amazing amazing setup! :clap:
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2015, 11:32:26 AM »

So glad you were'nt sucked in and well done for keeping him hooked while you did your investigations.   :baseballbat:   These people are...... *insert swear word*

Grrrr
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Re: Someone recently tried to scam me using bird trader....
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2015, 04:08:57 PM »

So glad you were'nt sucked in and well done for keeping him hooked while you did your investigations.   :baseballbat:   These people are...... *insert swear word*

Grrrr

They really are *swear word* Just got lucky thanks to forums like these!! :)
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