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sean2606

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Advice needed
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:43:59 AM »

Hi again,
Been having a problem with Peaches plucking the feathers off her wings for almost a year now, her blood test and xrays had come back as normal last year except that she had a tiny piece of metal in her wing which the vet said should be disposed off naturally. Her plucking has gotten worse and now half of her chest has gone bare. This morning there were a couple of blood marks on her chest and wings. She has loads of toys but she doesn't seem to be interested in either the new nor old  ones.

During the day my wife says she is fine and really vocal chatting and whistling away and doesn't seem to pluck much. Its only in the evenings especially when we are having dinner and she wants some of our food, I tend to give her some  but she just has a couple of nibbles and then throws it out and then starts plucking again until i give her some more of our food.

Would she have to have her bloods taken again? Is there anything else that can be done besides medicines? Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2015, 10:31:16 AM »

It sounds like she is doing this as she has learned that it gets your attention, particularly when she does it if she wants your food, is she doing this when she is inside her cage and wanting to be out with you whilst your eating? could you eat in a different room out of her way or put her in another room whilst you're eating? to avoid her doing this? I think I have mentioned before that my bird used to do this when she was put in her cage purely wanting to be out and sat me with constantly.
The photo is what her wing used to look like and one of what it is like now, my avian vet advised having the feathers (or chewed stumps as they were) pulled out to allow new regrowth of the flights all at the same time so that they can support each other as they grow, we also was advised to have a hormone implant fitted which we did and her wings slowly grew back, I also bought her lots of foraging and puzzle toys for hiding food in as a distraction for her when going back in her cage. The worst time for her was when I was leaving for work in a morning so every day before I go I hide little treats around her cage and pop her in and tell her to go find them and that keeps her occupied whilst I get out the door! she doesnt pluck or chew anymore and I still continue with the distraction technique.

I would go back to the vet and see what he suggests.
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2015, 10:33:38 AM »

Forgot the pics
From this
 

To this
 
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2015, 11:22:21 AM »

 Lynn as given you good advice but also could you tell us
 how old the bird is? I assume you already know its a hen,
 How often is she sprayed  ? If so do you put a little Aloe Vera in the water once a week. To soothe the dry /bare areas
Do you pellet feed? .
 Does the birds cage get covered on a night?
 Has she also plucked the top of her shoulders? . If she has & her chest as well to me depending on her age  this could be hormones as it is that time of year.
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2015, 04:35:48 PM »

It sounds like she is doing this as she has learned that it gets your attention, particularly when she does it if she wants your food, is she doing this when she is inside her cage and wanting to be out with you whilst your eating? could you eat in a different room out of her way or put her in another room whilst you're eating? to avoid her doing this? I think I have mentioned before that my bird used to do this when she was put in her cage purely wanting to be out and sat me with constantly.
The photo is what her wing used to look like and one of what it is like now, my avian vet advised having the feathers (or chewed stumps as they were) pulled out to allow new regrowth of the flights all at the same time so that they can support each other as they grow, we also was advised to have a hormone implant fitted which we did and her wings slowly grew back, I also bought her lots of foraging and puzzle toys for hiding food in as a distraction for her when going back in her cage. The worst time for her was when I was leaving for work in a morning so every day before I go I hide little treats around her cage and pop her in and tell her to go find them and that keeps her occupied whilst I get out the door! she doesnt pluck or chew anymore and I still continue with the distraction technique.

I would go back to the vet and see what he suggests.


Hi Lynn

Thanks for the advice. Her cage is in our kitchen and her stand in our living room.  I think I shall leave her in her cage while we eat. Like is surely an attention seeker as even when my wife and I are talking to each other she starts pulling her feathers. I spray her with aloe Vera every alternate day and cover her cage at night. She isn't that fussed when I leave for work as she will say 'bye bye see you later'. As for her toys, she just doesn't seem interested in them. I fill them up with fruits n stuff but she won't go near them like she used to in the past.
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2015, 05:12:36 PM »

Could well be hormonal, I know you've said in previous post about the vet mentioning a hormone implant to you in the past, its defo worth considering. You could also try 'R Leaves' which is a natural supplement for hormonal birds looks like palm oil.
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2015, 05:19:44 PM »

Hi Lynn
Could you please tell me a bit more about R Leaves, what is it? How is it administered? Where can I get it from?

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2015, 05:42:27 PM »

Here's a link to it, you can buy it from scarletts
http://www.meadowsah.com/home/rleaves.html
That will explain far better than I can, but its worth a try and it won't do her any harm. You can feed it on toast that's how I give it to gizmo.
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2015, 05:43:50 PM »

Ah thanks a lot for all your help Lynn

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2015, 06:00:10 PM »

I have a chronic egg laying cockatiel and it's helped hugely for that, hopefully it'll help with your girls plucking


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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2015, 06:28:20 PM »

Thanks kazky I hope so too. She is a real fussy eater

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2015, 06:32:21 PM »

:D is often just a case of finding out what they actually like, it's difficult sometimes


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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2015, 06:39:57 PM »

Just got the R leaves, gonna try it with some toast tomorrow  morning hope she likes it.

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2015, 07:26:56 PM »

Sean a one of toast and only a very small amount of Rleaves is needed :)
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2015, 08:52:40 PM »

Oh nice one, good luck let us know how she gets on
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2015, 11:39:44 AM »

My girlie has pecked out some neck feathers and has a bald patch. I use the aloe vera gel in her misting water. It's rather concerning as i am finding bigger feathers as well. Could it be the time of year? Thanks in advance.  :ty
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2015, 11:47:51 AM »

Tried r leaves on a bit of toast this morning but she just nibbled the dry part of the toast n threw the bit with the R leaves away 😯 will have to find some other way to get her to eat it

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2015, 11:56:16 AM »

There is no quick fix for pluckers, unless hormonal then it's the bird pill. Nope didn't work for my boy.

Stress is the factor, let's list what I did! Changed sleeping room, stopped using a cover, stopped spraying, changed diet, collar, pill, improved relationships with others in the house, moved back home, modified my relationship with Willow, rewarded preening, trained more, allow him to say no, respected him more, treated him like a bird, learnt to ask him to do things not expect, increased change and new experiences, added palm oil to the diet and exercised more and what ever else I've forgotten.

So not 1 thing, I worked on reducing stress until it was below the trigger point.
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