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Hormone Implant? Any suggestions?
« on: October 25, 2015, 06:23:04 PM »

Hello all
I'm off to the vet tomorrow morning as Peaches' plucking has just gotten worse. Her chest is almost bare n so are her under wings. The last time the vet suggested an implant but I didn't know how effective would it be in helping her decrease her plucking so I refused. Any suggestions if I should get an implant fitted.

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Re: Hormone Implant? Any suggestions?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2015, 07:02:49 PM »

Hi Sean
Dave(greenfield) had his female grey fitted with a implant for hormones and I know he said she did improve :)
I only know of a male that had one fitted for pluckin and he did well too
Has everything else been ruled out ? Xx
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Re: Hormone Implant? Any suggestions?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2015, 07:05:47 PM »

I turned a plucker, he had everything collar, implant my next one was doping him. Do I feel it worked nope!

Reached around the collar, did it months after implant. What I felt worked was removing as much environmental stress as possible.

Environmental stress is an all inclusive thing, this is everything from husbandry, diet, sleep, threats, forcing, inappropriate handling, even our emotional state. If emotionally we're not in a good place we can't expect a flock animal to not feel threatened.

I went right back to the beginning, I worked a trust account I stopped forcing anything on him. I asked him to do something and stopped forcing him, so he didn't want a bath, I didn't spray him. I stopped forcing him to step up, didn't realise I was at the time. Shoving a finger into the chest and getting a step up, isn't the same as asking for a step up and getting them to step on.

My honest opinion is our emotional well being plays a bigger affect on the behaviours of our parrots than we realise. Plucking if it's not medical is a combination of inadvertently drama rewarding and us emotionally giving mixed messages. In either giving of threat signals or mating signals neither a good thing.

Edit-Tolerable stress has become intolerable and is being externalised and is habit forming.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2015, 08:03:15 PM »

Hi Sean
Dave(greenfield) had his female grey fitted with a implant for hormones and I know he said she did improve :)
I only know of a male that had one fitted for pluckin and he did well too
Has everything else been ruled out ? Xx
Hi Mandi
Thanks for the advice. I have used R-Leaves, spray her with aloe Vera etc but it's just gotten from bad to worse. At first it was just her wings now her chest has gone bare right up to her neck. She has even stopped playing with her toy (bought loads of new ones too but she just doesn't want to know) A lot has changed we have moved to a new house, I have gotten married n have recently a new addition to our family with a baby girl. So don't really know how to get things back to what they were.   Depresses me to see her this way.

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Re: Hormone Implant? Any suggestions?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2015, 08:40:29 PM »

I have to say i had good results with Gizmo's hormone implant and after discussions with my AV I am considering one for Charlie who is also a mutilator. Gizmo had it done but at the same time I made lots of changes, new cage, got her focusing on foraging and changed my behaviour too. Together it all worked in stopping her mutilating her wing. So I can only speak from my experience and the advice from my own vet but I'd definitely consider it. In fact with Charlie we've been advised to try a hormone injection which is only short term and lasts about a month to 6 weeks but will be a good indication of whether it will help or not and if it does you then go down the longer lasting implant route. Maybe you could ask your avian vet about that.

How old is she now?

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2015, 08:58:24 PM »

I have to say i had good results with Gizmo's hormone implant and after discussions with my AV I am considering one for Charlie who is also a mutilator. Gizmo had it done but at the same time I made lots of changes, new cage, got her focusing on foraging and changed my behaviour too. Together it all worked in stopping her mutilating her wing. So I can only speak from my experience and the advice from my own vet but I'd definitely consider it. In fact with Charlie we've been advised to try a hormone injection which is only short term and lasts about a month to 6 weeks but will be a good indication of whether it will help or not and if it does you then go down the longer lasting implant route. Maybe you could ask your avian vet about that.

How old is she now?

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Hi Lynn
Thanks for the reassurance. She is about 3.5 years old (not exactly sure of her age as the person I bought her off said she was around 6 months then). Is the injection the same as the implant but a short lasting version of it?
Thanks once again.

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Re: Hormone Implant? Any suggestions?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2015, 09:09:42 PM »

Yeah I believe so, its called 'Lupron' if you want to ask vet about it.

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2015, 04:18:10 PM »

Been seen by our vet today Peaches had her bloods taken n been told she has put on weight on her chest which is not really good n needs to be exercised. Have to wait for her blood test results to see what's to be done next.

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2015, 05:18:53 PM »

Oh that's good at least you'll know more once the results come back. Did they say how long it would take? I only ask cos i had full blood work done on Charlie on Friday and the results came back the same day which I was really surprised about.

What sort of diet is peaches on? She's probably gained weight with being unable to fly cos of her wing chewing.

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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2015, 06:04:30 PM »

Oh that's good at least you'll know more once the results come back. Did they say how long it would take? I only ask cos i had full blood work done on Charlie on Friday and the results came back the same day which I was really surprised about.

What sort of diet is peaches on? She's probably gained weight with being unable to fly cos of her wing chewing.

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Hi Lynn,
He said he will give me a call by Thursday, hoping it's not too bad. She's on Harrison's pellets and some parrot mix which I bought off Scarletts. Peaches can't fly as her wing was amputated a few years ago due to a tumor.

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Re: Hormone Implant? Any suggestions?
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2015, 09:11:54 AM »

Missed this post .
From what you say management wise you seem to be doing everything right .
Yes Mandis right ,
We did have our hen fitted with an implant a year or two ago and yes it stopped her laying and plucking for about ten months but when the implant started to wear off and she couldn't lay she really plucked herself bad .
That just us and according to our vet our hen is the most hormonal bird she has ever come across .
There like humans ,there all different ,what works for some doesent always work for others.




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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2015, 09:55:00 AM »

Hi greenfield
Thanks for the reply. That's what the vet said, it works on some animals so depending on her blood results he will send out some oral solution called 'calms' or something he asked to try that out first.

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