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« on: January 19, 2014, 03:32:26 AM »

Here's the story guys. It's a bit long but my grey has been plucking for 3 years.

It all started in 2010. I had to have Chewy wing clipped because I lived in a house with other people and I was always paranoid about other people not closing windows because I had a close call. Chewy was going to fly out the window which someone had opened, but luckily I had a hanging rope near the window so he landed there instead. It almost give me heart attack.

Not long after he started plucking. I thought this may be because he couldn't fly. Took him to a really good avian vet and to see the nutrition expert. Had some tests done on Chewy. Turns out he has low calcium and low red blood cells. So I did everything I possibly could to give him UV exposure and calcium. Plucking didn't stop. 

2013, no progress. Still plucks. Took him back to avian vet. All tests came out good. His calcium and red blood cells were very good. I was also told he has the ideal CAG weight. Disease tests were done they were all clear. It was down to psychological.

I later moved in with husband and we have our own place. Chewy has his own bird room. For a while I saw improvements. He started growing a lot more feathers and there were no bald spots. Just before Xmas, he is able to fly again. He is only missing 1 flight feather. Maybe the freedom to fly makes him stop plucking?

Nope, he started plucking out his chest feathers all the way out from the shaft. I would occasionally find chest feather with a bloody shaft. It must hurt him to pluck it out like that :( thing is I only ever notice it when I uncover his cage or if I'm not around.

My husband thinks this may be because Chewy misses me? I used to have his cage in my bedroom before I moved in with husband. Can this be why? But then again I have ruled out this theory because I did say soon as I moved in with hubby I notice significant improvement with Chewy.

I really doubt it's because anything in the room, because I know my bird when he don't like something.

I give him a lot of attention. I currently don't work anymore so always at home. I don't notice any plucking in my presence. Just the odd down feathers during preening. All his feathers look chewed up. His red tail feathers are lovely though (with no stress bars). He is chirpy and chatty.

I just wish to see him fully feathered again. It breaks my heart when I see improvement then for unknown reason he plucks again.

I leave radio on for him when no one at home. I have purifier and humidifier in room. Also UV lamp. I open window let fresh air in. He eats his Harrison's. Maybe I just have to accept he plucks out of habit? Lately I have not seen any chest feather with bloody shaft. Those are the ones  I'm very concerned about.

If you read this far thanks for reading and any advice or critism is welcome.


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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 03:38:22 AM »

I do have to mention though. I don't see him plucking when I'm in the room. I have on occasion noticed when I go for my shower and come back to him I see the odd chest feather with blood on the end freshly pulled out. It is never done into presence.

He hasn't been pulling his chest feathers now, but they are still looking chewed up with no layer of down feathers so his chest looks bare here and there.

I do invite him to come in the shower but whenever I ask him he goes back in his cage and says byebye to me, what a cheeky sod lol

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 10:09:37 AM »

Hi from a mummy to 2 pluckers :pecking:
I don't know if you've ever read peaches story?? But like you I was always trying to 'fix' her :(
Peach still plucks but iv excepted it's just her way
There's never a 'easy' answer as to why they pluck
But like your birdie she is healthy and happy so I try not to worry
My vet twice told me she would need to be put down to end her misery :cry:
Please try not to stress over it ,it's a captivity thing (if everything else ruled out ofcorse )
Just praise when u see a correct preen and ignor the plucking

As for the shower the spray bottle is fine , mine aren't over keen but it has to be done :)
Just enjoy him , the pluckers always steel my heart :cheekkiss:


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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 11:17:02 AM »

Thanks Mandi. Sometimes I actually notice he plucks more down feathers when I spray him with the healex soother spray. That is what the vet gave me.

I think he generally just plucks out of habit and not boredom or attention seeking. Thank god he stopped plucking out his chest feathers and he just leave them intact but just looks very chewed up. I collected the chest feathers so I could show my vet on my next visit.

I stopped finding these now at bottom of cage now.


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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2014, 11:19:51 AM »

Here's one that just started to grow but he plucked it out.


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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2014, 11:21:11 AM »

Mandi why does your vet tell you to put peaches down? Is your  peaches sick?


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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2014, 11:28:31 AM »

Peach also plucked more with the avix spray so I just use water now
And I also found diluted F10 sometimes worked too :)
The vet told me to put her down as she was also mutilating (biting flesh) so was in a collar for 2 years
Of corse I didn't listen and she is now without the collar and no longer mutilating x


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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2014, 12:06:01 PM »

hi Vivian

i don't think its anything you have done wrong. once a bird starts to pluck for some its hard to stop. some do some don't. like Mandi says i would only use plain old water to spray with. or you could add some apple cider vinegar. unfortunately there is no quick easy answer to help you. i wish there was.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2014, 02:34:30 PM »

I've tried Topical Spray as well with the aloe vera and that doesn't seem to work in fact next morning I would find more down feathers. I'm just using warm water now just to see if any improvement.


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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2014, 11:22:50 PM »

What a lovely lady you sound Vivian. You are doing your best for her and it sounds as if you have done everything you can to ensure she is happy and healthy. x
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2014, 01:57:02 PM »

Thanks everyone. I still don't feel like a good mummy :( I know it's psychological, I tried UV lamp, fresh air, humidifier, purifier, daily warm showers, Harrison's, lots of toys. I even have a sleeping bag in the bird room for times when he doesn't feel like coming out. I don't know what to do. I kinda just accepted it as it has been 3 years now and only progress is he is now able to fly.

Before, he had very weak flight feathers that a slight crash to the floor or a bump would make the flight feather snap or fall off. But they seem to be a lot stronger now. Haven't picked up any of his flight feathers in a while. Fingers crossed!


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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2014, 02:03:20 PM »

chewys flight feathers have grown back. When he started plucking he had no flight feathers

Most recent pic

Feathers look chewed up but at least they work!


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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2014, 02:09:13 PM »

At the moment he looks like this. Doesn't get any worse with the plucking, but also doesn't get any better either. He tends to just leave the chewed up feathers in place so new ones can't grow back and he is always really fluffy on the chest




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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2014, 04:59:31 PM »

Though you don't feel you've improved anything , you would of dramatically changed what's happening on the inside
All the above you mention will of improved his health 10 fold :cheekkiss:
If he chooses to pluck then so be it , my coco still looks as bald as the day she arrived here but now to be honest I just don't notice
I love em all just the same , even chewy :) x x


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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2014, 05:11:43 PM »

Thanks mandi. So sweet of you. As long as he is healthy and happy then I'm a happy mummy. Was just wondering if anyone could shed some light to the problem but I doubt there is a solution. Even the nutrition and behaviour expert at the parrot show couldn't help me with the problem. It may be hormones to be honest. Every time I clean his cage he would attempt to regurgitate on my hand and I have to take my hand out for him to calm down.


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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 05:16:41 PM »

I'm napping in the bird room again :D




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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2014, 05:17:33 PM »

Thing is in the wild they would find a mate n be together for life
In captivity they can't have that with their chosen human
So they get confused / frustrated
Just try not to encourage it x x


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