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TJay

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« on: October 20, 2011, 12:24:25 PM »

Any hints on how to get Lexi to step onto me? I try offering her my hand to stand on so I can take her out the cage and onto the play stand but all I get is pecked or munched  :cry2:

Don't get me wrong, I love her to bits and am not complaining - just wondering how I would approach her in such a way she automatically steps up? Ought it to be fingers, wrist, hand or arm? If anyone had a vid of how they do it I would appreciate it - my tiel will just do it without thinking, if my finger is near her she steps on, I recall something about pressing my finger upwards on her tummy to begin with and of course she allowed me to. . . .
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Re: Basics
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 12:53:19 PM »

I really do believe it all comes down to trust in yourself and your bird if he or won't step up, i found that trying to teach my bird to step onto my finger or whatever was a pain in the butt, i simple left him to come round and left him to it.
One day i was in his room and had my walking frame in front of me as i sat on the couch eating a trifle, he was free and he decided to fly to my walker landed on it and due to the risk of the foam being distroyed by his beak i offered my finger to him and onto it he stepped "no past training" so as i say its all about trust in both of you and the rest will fall into place.
Thats my opinion and i stand by it.
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Re: Basics
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 01:08:40 PM »

Before a Grey steps onto anything they test it with their beak to see if it's stable enough.  So, if you are hesitant with your hand in front of him, he isn't going to step up and if he tests it with his beak, you think he's going to bite and pull your hand away.......he's going to bite!  So, go in with confidence, just put your hand in front of him, I usually use my hand with my thumb tucked in, so that he is standing on four fingers, and say "up" or whatever you want to say.....it might take a few goes, but you'll get there, it's all about trust, time and patience....and confidence.  If you are nervous, they will pick up on it and nip because you will make him nervous.

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 05:56:09 PM »

I must admit patience is not one of my most abundant qualities  :laugh:.  I guess she must just not be ready to come out her cage or stand on me yet. I keep telling myself she has not been handled in at least 2 years, or out of her cage so it will take time. I put my hand to her and if I don't stop by about 3 inches away she backs off and/or bites. Earlier my hand had about 4 sets of the purple c shapes from the beak bites  :blow: but if I stop at a couple of inches then she bends forward for a neck rub.

It seems she is more tactile in the evening though, asking for longer cuddles. Sounds weird I know, but I think she is more mellow in the evening.

I am so grateful that she is even prepared to let me near her at all, am just gonna have to learn to be patient  :nerner:
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Re: Basics
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 06:15:00 PM »

I would be patient and let her come out of her cage when she is ready. She may still be wary from being in a new environment. Saying that, we have had Sid for 5 years and he still will not step up. I use a stick as the times I have tried with my hand he has bitten me badly. But he does like his head stroked and doesn't touch me if I  put my hand in his cage.  :biggrin:
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Re: Basics
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 11:38:38 PM »

i am sure i watched a video of pat doing the step up training, i offer my hand out flat and hold a sunflower seed in the other hand so he has to stretch over my flat hand to get at it, then after a few goes of doing that i put the seed further away so he had to step on my hand to get it, now he will step up as soon as he sees my hand, we also done lots of stick training so that he wasn't biting my fingers all the time, have a look in the training vids and look at pats there is some great tips in there, good luck and it will take time
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Re: Basics
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 05:27:34 AM »

Wow, I feel so fortunate.  We got Crash about 3 1/2 months ago.  He is a 7 yo CAG.  His former owner was going through a divorce and we were in the right place at the right time.  Our first day together, he drew blood on both my wife and I.  There was a lot of hesitation as Crash is the first bird I have ever been around.  After a couple of weeks, I was confident enough to hold my hand near him without pulling away in fear when he would touch my hand with his beak.  It took time and patience, but after he had been here about 2 months, he finally got on my hand.  He now climbs up every time I place my hand near him and we walk all over the house.  He has a difficult time with my wife because he does not like her long nails.  I am finding that he is so much fun and just today he started saying "I love you" .. we treat him like our kids at night and tell him good night, love you.  I must say that it is all about patience, love, and more patience.
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Re: Basics
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 07:55:19 AM »

For the first 9 months or so with Flint I used a thick towel wrapped around my arm and he stepped up onto that - think its more stable for him and somehow easier for him to trust  :crazy:

But in the last couple month, he has started stepping up onto my bare hand, I started by trying it when he was quite mellow but now he will step up most of the time although if he really doesn't want to or is grumpy I'll get a nasty bite  :grumble:

It really does take time, but you can try different things  :thumbsup:
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Re: Basics
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 02:13:52 PM »

I offer my arm with my jumper pulled down. she has very sharp claws :(
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 11:21:49 PM »

Have you tried putting your arm behind him?
Marley prefers to step backwards if he is in the cage.
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Re: Basics
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 03:26:40 PM »

Any hints on how to get Lexi to step onto me? I try offering her my hand to stand on so I can take her out the cage and onto the play stand but all I get is pecked or munched  :cry2:

Don't get me wrong, I love her to bits and am not complaining - just wondering how I would approach her in such a way she automatically steps up? Ought it to be fingers, wrist, hand or arm? If anyone had a vid of how they do it I would appreciate it - my tiel will just do it without thinking, if my finger is near her she steps on, I recall something about pressing my finger upwards on her tummy to begin with and of course she allowed me to. . . .

I was wondering if you were successful in any way with the, "Step Up"?
How long have you been working with her?
I had a similar problem, and thought maybe we can help each other work through?
Just a thought. I love my grey to death, I know he loves me. I am having problems with getting him to stay on my fingers. :welcome:
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Re: Basics
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 07:07:01 PM »

Does he step up and then fly straight off or does he not step up at all?

I started by offering 2 fingers and giving a treat when she stepped up, I would gradually increase the time between the step up and the treat and she now sits happily on my hand for quite a while.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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