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« on: September 04, 2012, 06:19:43 PM »

Hi all again, I've tried teaching JJ To step up or even let me touch him but he is nt having non of it, he is now 4 nearly 5 but nothing I seem to do is working, can you get parrot trainers?? Maybe be a silly question but thought I'd ask, thanks
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 06:53:27 PM »

I have I grey that steps up for no one
Is it necessary you get tickles from him?
Try stick training to learn him to step up onto a stick perch so you can move him from A to B x
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 06:55:11 PM »

How long have you had jo, have you had him from a baby
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Re: Nothing seems to be working..
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2012, 08:14:07 PM »

My parents got him when he was a baby, after 3 years of having them they get divorced and I took him on, the odd occasion he may let me touch his head only when he is half asleep, but when i try to go anywhere near him he puffs up or lunges at me. I've never done anything to harm him not has anyone, but if I let him out he will fly to the sofa and he will step up on my hand for him to only go back to his cage if I walk away he will fly off and go back to his cage, do its like he is only using me as a transport...its upsetting as if like to tickle him more and not be lunged at
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2012, 08:22:25 PM »

I have a wonderful relationship with one of mine Oscar
He sings to me, talks to me, thanks me for feeding him, plays with his toys comes to the front of the cage to see me blah blah blah
I have had him for almost a year and I have tickled his head once. I did it a second time and he nearly took my finger off. He doesn't want me to touch him, so I don't. But we are both happy
One day I might try again ???


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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2012, 08:23:57 PM »

Are you scared of him , as he will sense this and think he is the boss. Don't give up it took me 7 years to get Pablo to love me ,ha ha ha and he only loved me as I showed him he couldn't muck me about any longer . Don't give up he is making encouraging movements , he is testing you . X
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2012, 08:28:30 PM »

Is the touch stick theory worth trying? He will some times come to the side of the cage and see me, and everytime I feed him I say thank you but he will say it randomly during the day..he is always watching what I'm doing as well. I'm not scared of him just don't like the lunging, he will let me stroke his beak softly if that's any consolation?
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 08:32:12 PM »

When I want Lola to step up ,I make sure I have something in my other hand to distract her ,  or I would get a bite, but hubby just has to put his hand up o her and she does it ,  ha ha ha.  Grrrrr..   Pablo  used to be the same with me but now he is my friend and everything is so much easier and stress free . Just keep trying and trying . X
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Re: Nothing seems to be working..
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 09:36:28 PM »

I had exactly the same problem with Brian and so I started stick training which was slow at first but I'm finally started to see improvements. He still won't step up but he hasn't bitten or lunged for me since we started stick training. He has become much more sociable now though. He will follow me around the house and sit and watch tv on the sofa with me etc and even loves having tickles now. The key is to take it slow and be patient. It will come in the end. I thought Brian was untrainable too x
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 09:39:19 PM »

I had exactly the same problem with Brian and so I started stick training which was slow at first but I'm finally started to see improvements. He still won't step up but he hasn't bitten or lunged for me since we started stick training. He has become much more sociable now though. He will follow me around the house and sit and watch tv on the sofa with me etc and even loves having tickles now. The key is to take it slow and be patient. It will come in the end. I thought Brian was untrainable too x
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 06:21:14 AM »

Hello,i used to have an AG many years ago.he had been badly teased by a previous owner.The bird did nothing but growl at me for over a year.He did get used to me putting in food and water,but i couldnt do a thing with him.he was petrified! In the end i did rehome him:(
I didnt have the internet then(it was over 15 years ago) so didnt have the search and find power that we have for advice these days.
My AG Ledge (that i have now) started to bite me badly when i asked her to step up(shes temperamental lol)
I use the stick treatment everytime now,and its brilliant!
She bit the stick at first and i felt like i was teasing her..i kept up with the "step up" command and now she does it(under protest) everytime!
When shes being naughty she steps up on the stick and makes her way quickly upto my fingers lol(clever girl)
Persevere,and the stick treatment WILL work for you
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, 05:24:59 PM »

If you are trying to train your Grey, then you only have a 10 - 15 minute window maybe twice a day to do that, the best time is in the morning before you give breakfast, then you have your nut as a treat for him, just break off little pieces, I use half a walnut or pecan and once that's gone, that's the training over, you can train him much better then because he will work for the nut.  Again in the afternoon before his evening meal, you can do the same thing.  Only work with him for about 10 minutes though, he's going to get bored, you are going to get frustrated and it will end up with him hating training and you in a mood.  You have to finish on a high with training, so that it will be fun next time he comes out to do it.

To sort out the lunging, walk towards him like you would usually do, if you see him lower his head ready to lunge stop, wait until he relaxes, turn and walk away.  Do that a few times a couple of times a day and pretty soon you will see that you will be able to get closer before he lunges and in time, he will stop lunging.  Doing it slowly and patiently he is getting what he wants and you are getting what you want, if you try and rush it you will lose his trust and you won't stand a chance with him.  Of course there is always the chance that he just doesn't want to step up from his cage, could he be territorial?  You say he will step up from the back of the sofa only to be taken back to his cage, well next time you get him to step up from the sofa, walk in the opposite direction from his cage, when you feel him grip ready to fly off, stop turn around and put him back on the sofa.  It's all about getting him to realise you mean no harm, his cage is not a punishment and generally you are a nice person to be with lol.  Of course that all works well in theory and as long as you can get him to step up at some point, it should work well in practice as well.  I've got one parrot Charlie who I can do anything with, I also have another parrot, Penny, who absolutely hates me, even though I do everything possible for her, that's just the way it is, luckily she likes my partner so that's ok, but he's only allowed to touch her head.  I just know that if she wasn't living here with us, she would be passed around and around because she is not a cuddly, playful bird, she just sits and lunges and bites me, her main goal in life is to see my blood, she's managed it a couple of times so far, but now I respect her space and she respects mine.  It's the way of the Grey I'm afraid, sometimes they like you, sometimes they like someone else in the family, it all takes a lot of time and patience to get any sort of trust with them.

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2012, 10:18:49 PM »

and if all else fails and he still bites you you can always hit him with the stick  :rofl: :rofl: only joking
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