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Untrainable!!!
« on: June 25, 2012, 12:55:01 PM »

I'm after some advice if anyone can help. I've had my parrot for about 8 months now and he is about 18 months old. I'm having problems with training him to step up and stop biting. I have read that to train him to stop biting he needs to learn the step up command and to learn the step up command I need to take him into a neutral environment away from his cage. How do I do this if I can't get near him because he is biting me?? It's getting me down as he seems untrainable!!
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Re: Untrainable!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 03:22:21 PM »

Noooooo he's not untrainable, you just have to learn to read his body language! 

I wrote this ages ago but it still applies...

http://www.africangreyparrotcentre.co.uk/african-grey-forum/training/stop-biting!/


I will update all the training things soon.  x

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Re: Untrainable!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 06:46:18 AM »

I can't get the link to load for some reason :/
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 07:10:50 AM »

We have same problem with cookie and seem a liitle bit ahead of you in training,we found the only safe way to do it was to put a cloth over her,although some people tell you not to do this,and some tell you too,but once she's out of cage we have got to stage were we can get her out of towel and she wont fly into a wall which she was at first,and she some times steps up now and doesnt bite as much,but to get her out and back into cage we have to still use the towel
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Re: Untrainable!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 01:03:53 PM »

I have tried the towel method but it scares him to death and stresses him out to much so I stopped it as he started to hate me even more. I only use the towel now in emergencies. He has got himself stuck behind the television before now and I thought he was going to electrocute himself so got the towel for that :/
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Re: Untrainable!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 01:11:39 PM »

Yeah, towelling isn't the best way to build trust.  :biggrin:

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Re: Untrainable!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 01:29:29 PM »

Sydney comes out of his cage but cannot be handled so i use a travel cage and as he climbs onto the travel cage door i close it and reward him. i can then move him downstairs and he comes out of the cage by himself or with the stick training.
i have tried to create the experience of moving into the travel cage as one that leads to a positive event. this is until he is confident to step up to anyone in the family.
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Re: Untrainable!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 01:52:54 PM »

Brian comes out of the cage on his own but getting him back in can be a nightmare. If I go near him he just goes off to somewhere where he knows I can't reach him. Im going to try stick training. That looks like a good method of getting them to go where you want them.
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Re: Untrainable!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 02:52:08 PM »

You've just hit the nail on the head there, he goes off to somewhere where he knows you can't reach him.  The main thing is, not to rush him and not to keep on and on at him telling him to go home etc.  If you want him to go back into his house, then reward him everytime you put him in and close the door.  If you stick train him and use that to get him in the house......well he might not touch the stick for long before he thinks "hang on a minute, I touch that and I end up in the cage!" The best thing to do is to stick train, that's always good then when you have finished that, tap the top of his door with your finger and tell him to go home, once he's done that a few times (praise him up and give him treats) you can let him see that you have put a nut in his dish and tell him to go "right in!" with a bit of luck, he'll go right in!  I really must get my act together and do some new videos so that you can see what I mean.  You know you only train for 10 minutes at a time before they lose interest, you lose patience and they won't want to do it again.  The best time to train is after their morning poop and before breakfast, so that they are hungry and will do anything for a little treat.   Then you have another ten minute window to train just before their evening meal.

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 03:19:02 PM »

Yeah I have only been doing bits at a time. I understand what you mean by him associating the stick with going back in his cage. Will start giving him treats when putting him away. I'm just going to take it slow with him and see what happens. I need to get him fully comfortable with taking treats from my hand first then will progress from there
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